How old is my baby gecko?

Rajah

New member
Hey, everyone. I'm very new to leopard geckos, though I've done a ton of research. I recently got a new baby gecko from Petco, and I want to track his/her progess, but I don't know his/her age. One girl told me they were about nine weeks old, but then I asked the head of the reptile/amphibian department, and she said that she didn't know where the other girl had gotten that number, because when they get them in, they only say that they're babies, and nothing more. Personally, I think he/she looks a little "new" to be over two months old. Just a guess, but I'd say he/she's somewhere around three inches, but I can't be sure. I don't want to stress the gecko out with a ruler. Also, does anyone know what phase he/she is? Most that I've seen of this type turn out to be lavender phase geckos, but I've also heard that it could be high yellow. What, exactly, is a normal phase gecko? From what I understand, the normal ones end up being mostly yellow with purple bands and black spots. Is that the same as lavender phase? I'm hoping for it :) Anyway, here's a picture of him/her:

BabyGroovy.jpg


Thanks for your help! :)
 

Airedale

New member
IDK about the age, but my brother and I each just got leos from Petco, and a bit of advice, keep a close on him and bring him to the vet if he doesn't eat for a couple days or his belly turns really black (not from a pattern). My brother's first leo died on the fifth of the month. He was either impacted or had his stomach rupture. :cry: I am never getting one from Petco again. If you are going to get another, go with a breeder.
 

cindy

New member
Looks very young to me, about two or three weeks old actually...
But it's a bit difficult to tell from a picture ;-)
Keep a close watch on him/here, and feed it with small size crickets (dusted with calciumpowder)
By the way; what's his/here name???
Greetz,

Cindy
 

fickle

New member
looks about 1 month thats my guess its hard to tell
and she looks like a high yellow jungle
 

oli

New member
it's a normal, or high yellow, my belief on this is that a gecko this old should not be sold at a pet store. I can say from experience and seeing that pic that this gecko is prolly only a few weeks old. You will have let it settle in with some hiding spots on the warm+cool side of your enclosure but if u listen to cindy he/she should do great ;)
 

Rajah

New member
Thanks for all of the input, guys. Now that you mention it, I've only had ger for a couple of days, but she hasn't eaten anything, yet. I've only tried giving her small crickets, and she took a little stab at one, but missed and gave up. Other than that, she's acting just fine. I might take her to the vet tomorrow or the next day, if she still hasn't eaten. I'm not too worried, as she's not terribly thin. Still, better safe than sorry. And if she's as young as you all think she may be, I can't afford to take any chances.

As for a name, I'm still trying to decide. I have some weird ones. The design in her back looks like a lava lamp, so I was thinking something like Moody or Groovy. But her awesome tail makes me almost want to name her Beetlejuice (one of my favorite movies :) ). I don't know. I'm so desperately indecisive. Any input? :)
 

lifeshighways

New member
when i bought my very first "baby" gecko, I was so excited.. she had the most adorable markings and I was SURE she would turn out to be some wild exotic coloration, I was sure she would be AWESOME.. I bought her from a breeder, I saw the parents. Father Normal, Mother Albino Tremper Lavendar Phase.... I was sure somehow in her heritage I had some WILD phenomina.... She had an adorable V on her forhead so we call her V.. V is for Vendetta... one of my own favorite movies... well... she was 4 weeks when I got her.. she's a little over 3 mths now... and I'll show you pics of her changes... I am saddened to know now.. she's going to be just a normal looking gecko... BUT the good news is, with all the people trying to come up with "cool morphs" my sweet NORMAL gecko will be priceless one day *LOL* besides she's so dang cute and sweet and loving.. I wouldn't care if she was a normal or some wild one of a kind she'd still be priceless to me!
So, the moral of my post is.. no matter what your lil babe looks like now, give him/her another 3 mths and you wont even recognize it *LOL*
You may try putting some mealies in the cage... sometimes petco does not feed crickets - well atleast the ones around here dont...

Oh and I have all my geckos on my myspace... you can see how they have all changed since arriving at the "Lizard Liason" that is now my house! *LOL* I have received way too many complaints from my friends/family for only posting lizard pics so you may get a wee bit overwelmed in my library!!!! You can add me if you have myspace my id is lifeshighways@gmail.com

But here are the "progress pics" of V.... (the first one was the day I got her, the 2nd was in June and that final picture is of my juvenile Normal Male - my lil pride and Joy.. Baby Mac... yes he has a pretty fat tail dont you agree? *LOL*)
 

Attachments

  • l_79b24dcccdf411d07017d86dc4c1635b.jpg
    l_79b24dcccdf411d07017d86dc4c1635b.jpg
    31.8 KB · Views: 97
  • l_bc85c57926a3554011f62b97be242882.jpg
    l_bc85c57926a3554011f62b97be242882.jpg
    84.1 KB · Views: 94
  • l_d33452f71627ccd676ec21afe4862f79.jpg
    l_d33452f71627ccd676ec21afe4862f79.jpg
    46.6 KB · Views: 91

Rajah

New member
Oh, I'll be happy with whatever she turns out to be. I've only had her for a few days, and I'm already in love with her :) She even lets me pet her head! She's such a little sweetheart. That's really crazy about your baby, though, jeffsphoenix; she really did look like she'd be something more wild. But, even though she's just a normal, she's absolutely beautiful! She grew up to be so pretty :) Personally, I think that the "normal" phase geckos are really nice looking. I'm actually hoping mine will turn out to be normal. I think their lavender ish stripes are so pretty. When I went to buy her, there was actually one in the tank that looked a few months older than the babies, definitely a juvie. That one was yellow with purple bands. She was so cute, but I really wanted to raise one from a baby, and she didn't have her original tail, so I wasn't sure what she'd been through. All in all, I'm happy with my new baby. I'm probably taking her to Petco today to have someone look at her. She still hasn't eaten. They said it's a problem with most of the ones there, so I'd better check it out. If there is anything, I can hopefully find it before it turns into something worse.

And, fickle, those are some cute names you came up with. I'm just not sure, yet, because I don't want to name "her" Daisy or something and then find out that "she" is really a he! I really should come up with something, though. I'm actually tempted to go with Lydia (it's a little prettier than Beetlejuice). I think I just might. And if she's a he... Well, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it :)
 

lifeshighways

New member
I know what you mean about naming them and then having to change it Baby Mac was Mackenzie, Mack, Mackenzie, Mack.. there for a long time I had almost decided to call him UNI... because I just wasent sure what he was *LOL* Eventually his manhood appeared... well and he started nipping at all my girls tails so I figured he's a boy.. picked him up and ... yep.. He's a boy.. FULL BLOWN BOY!!!! (dont let him know I called him a boy.. he gets all pissy when I call him boy.. He's momma's lil man! *LOL*)

Anyway...this may seem very odd to you, and I dont know if it will work for a baby, but I had a juvi/young adult that had that darkening under her tummy and I was sure she might be impacted (I've only been handling reptiles about 7 mths now so I do not know a lot/everything, or even much, so please verify anything I tell you before you try it) but I took her and put her in a nice warm bath and rubbed her back just where her tail meets her body in a downward direction.. from body to tail and she pooped! Took about 5 min but she did and the darkened spot went right away! So, if she or any gecko might be impacted you may try that.. it worked for me, does not mean it will for you though....


by the by... I am posting an article from a gecko inzine I am on about Chain Pet Store Geckos: (PS: sorry it's so long, I dont know how to post it any other way than copy paste and I think all of you wil find this info very helpful as well as quite disturbing!)

The Dangers of Pet Store
Leopard Geckos Hannah Martin
Greyscale Geckos
The Beginning
So there you are looking at the
cutest baby Leopard Gecko in a pet
store display. It is so small, fragile,
and even skinny too. Your heart
feels so captivated by this poor
little gecko that you reach into your
pocket, pull out your money, and
call a employee over to get it for
you. That little Leopard Gecko may
appeal to you because it is so small,
helpless, and sick, but do you really
know what you are getting into by
buying a pet store leopard gecko?
It all begins in cramped, dirty, and
disease-ridden breeding facilities.
Young and sick Leopard Gecko
mothers are bred and soon lay eggs.
These eggs hatch; as soon as the
babies have their first shed the facility
workers look for a place to send
them. Often times they are ordered
by corporations who will look to
put them into pet stores around the
world.
At one week old these Leopard
Geckos are shipped out to the pet
stores in large batches. A batch can
consist of as many as 40 baby Leopard
Geckos. Why such a large batch?
As many as 75% on the hatchlings
will die while being shipped. The
remaining hatchlings almost always
have an injury due to being shipped
improperly.
The Leopard Geckos are not shipped
in deli-cups inside of foam-insulated
boxes. They are shipped in a cardboard
box with no foam, no delicups.
In other words, if the package
is mishandled in anyway, they can
end up with broken limbs. It is a terrible
and horrifying way to spend a
few days. Yes, they spend a few days
like this while they travel to their
new home.
Upon arriving at a pet store the
deceased hatchlings are removed
from the box and discarded. Their
deaths are carefully marked down
so stores can get a refund, or more
leopard geckos in another shipment.
The amount of deceased hatchlings
never gets repaid though, for it is almost
impossible for these hatchlings
that are shipped so improperly to all
survive the terrifying journey.
Life at a pet store can go two ways
for the survivors. It can be a wonderful
experience where they can be
isolated before being put on display,
fed and medicated, and grown to a
more proper weight before they go
on sale or it can be the opposite way.
Unfortunately, the most common
route is the opposite way.
The majority of the hatchlings are
placed on display (unless they have
terrible injuries that the public would
notice) and left to await someone
like you to look at them. You noticed
how small and skinny they are, now
you understand why.
The Problems
The little Leopard Gecko you want
so badly is filled with a parasite load
that you could hardly imagine. Most
of these hatchlings will waste away
and die because their body is getting
nothing substantial enough to
keep them alive. Medications are not
given to relieve the baby Leopard
Geckos of parasites, so if you do end
up getting one of these babies, the
job falls to you. It costs money, and
will continue to cost money until the
Leopard Gecko is parasite free.
Parasites are not the only problem
these little Leopard Geckos face.
Most of the Leopard Geckos have
never had calcium in their short lives,
which causes Metabolic Bone Disorder.
This is unfortunately common
in pet store Leopard Geckos. The effects
of this cannot be reversed, but
the progression can be halted if the
Leopard Gecko is given calcium.
Cryptosporidium sounds like a negative
thing, doesn’t it? It is a protozoan
that is spread through oral
contact. Humans, other mammals,
and birds can be found with this in
their intestinal tracks but it does not
affect them the same way it affects
reptiles. When “Crypto” is found in
reptiles, it is always fatal. Generally,
reptiles that test positive for Crypto
are euthanized to end their misery.
Crypto is found in pet store geckos.
Employees rarely notice the Leopard
Geckos who have Crypto. Most
employees think that little leopard
geckos are just naturally skinny,
that they naturally waste away to
nothing. There is nothing natural
about a reptile’s death from Crypto.
It is a painful and miserable way to
die, and there is absolutely no way
to stop it. However, lucky for you,
Crypto is a lot more rare than some
people would like us to believe. In
other words, it is more likely that
your Leopard Gecko is suffering from
a heavy load of parasites than from
Crypto.
Shedding issues are very common
in pet store Leopard Geckos. Most
of the time humid hides are not offered
to these hatchlings, so they are
left with stuck shed on themselves
that through rubbing can become
infected. Stuck shed can lead to
horrible sores on their bodies that
easily become infected in the poor
condition that these Leopard Geckos
are kept in.
The Truth
Does the hatchling Leopard Gecko
still look adorable to you? Are you
still willing to pay hundreds of dollars
in vet bills to possibly save its
life? Either way, I can’t force you
to make the decision I want you to
make. Believe me, I have been in
your position. I understand how
hard it is to walk away from a Leopard
Gecko I wish I could have saved.
Sometimes the best decision is the
hardest one to make.
What will happen to the pet store
Leopard Geckos? Most of them will
die, and a √ew will be lucky and go
to homes to live out a shorter, but
better life than the pet store would
have provided. However, if you walk
away, in the end you might be doing
future pet store Leopard Geckos a
favor. Why waste money? You have
to understand, all Leopard Geckos
are to chain pet stores is money in
the bank.
If you choose to buy a pet store
Leopard Gecko you are funding
these pet stores that are continuing
to bring in young, unhealthy, and
unhappy Leopard Geckos to sell to
people like you. I hate to be cruel
and straightforward, but you can
be literally funding the death of 20
or more Leopard Geckos that come
with the next shipment.
The Other (and Best) Option
So now here you are with your hands
in your pockets outside of the pet
store, an irritated look on your face
as you grudgingly accept the fact
that a pet store Leopard Gecko might
not be the best option for you.
Are you disappointed now? Do
you still want a Leopard Gecko? Pet
stores aren’t the only places that
have Leopard Geckos. There are
other places that have healthy Leopard
Geckos.
 
The Dangers of Pet Store
Leopard Geckos Hannah Martin
Greyscale Geckos
The Beginning
So there you are looking at the
cutest baby Leopard Gecko in a pet
store display. It is so small, fragile,
and even skinny too. Your heart
feels so captivated by this poor
little gecko that you reach into your
pocket, pull out your money, and
call a employee over to get it for
you. That little Leopard Gecko may
appeal to you because it is so small,
helpless, and sick, but do you really
know what you are getting into by
buying a pet store leopard gecko?
It all begins in cramped, dirty, and
disease-ridden breeding facilities.
Young and sick Leopard Gecko
mothers are bred and soon lay eggs.
These eggs hatch; as soon as the
babies have their first shed the facility
workers look for a place to send
them. Often times they are ordered
by corporations who will look to
put them into pet stores around the
world.
At one week old these Leopard
Geckos are shipped out to the pet
stores in large batches. A batch can
consist of as many as 40 baby Leopard
Geckos. Why such a large batch?
As many as 75% on the hatchlings
will die while being shipped. The
remaining hatchlings almost always
have an injury due to being shipped
improperly.
The Leopard Geckos are not shipped
in deli-cups inside of foam-insulated
boxes. They are shipped in a cardboard
box with no foam, no delicups.
In other words, if the package
is mishandled in anyway, they can
end up with broken limbs. It is a terrible
and horrifying way to spend a
few days. Yes, they spend a few days
like this while they travel to their
new home.
Upon arriving at a pet store the
deceased hatchlings are removed
from the box and discarded. Their
deaths are carefully marked down
so stores can get a refund, or more
leopard geckos in another shipment.
The amount of deceased hatchlings
never gets repaid though, for it is almost
impossible for these hatchlings
that are shipped so improperly to all
survive the terrifying journey.
Life at a pet store can go two ways
for the survivors. It can be a wonderful
experience where they can be
isolated before being put on display,
fed and medicated, and grown to a
more proper weight before they go
on sale or it can be the opposite way.
Unfortunately, the most common
route is the opposite way.
The majority of the hatchlings are
placed on display (unless they have
terrible injuries that the public would
notice) and left to await someone
like you to look at them. You noticed
how small and skinny they are, now
you understand why.
The Problems
The little Leopard Gecko you want
so badly is filled with a parasite load
that you could hardly imagine. Most
of these hatchlings will waste away
and die because their body is getting
nothing substantial enough to
keep them alive. Medications are not
given to relieve the baby Leopard
Geckos of parasites, so if you do end
up getting one of these babies, the
job falls to you. It costs money, and
will continue to cost money until the
Leopard Gecko is parasite free.
Parasites are not the only problem
these little Leopard Geckos face.
Most of the Leopard Geckos have
never had calcium in their short lives,
which causes Metabolic Bone Disorder.
This is unfortunately common
in pet store Leopard Geckos. The effects
of this cannot be reversed, but
the progression can be halted if the
Leopard Gecko is given calcium.
Cryptosporidium sounds like a negative
thing, doesn’t it? It is a protozoan
that is spread through oral
contact. Humans, other mammals,
and birds can be found with this in
their intestinal tracks but it does not
affect them the same way it affects
reptiles. When “Crypto” is found in
reptiles, it is always fatal. Generally,
reptiles that test positive for Crypto
are euthanized to end their misery.
Crypto is found in pet store geckos.
Employees rarely notice the Leopard
Geckos who have Crypto. Most
employees think that little leopard
geckos are just naturally skinny,
that they naturally waste away to
nothing. There is nothing natural
about a reptile’s death from Crypto.
It is a painful and miserable way to
die, and there is absolutely no way
to stop it. However, lucky for you,
Crypto is a lot more rare than some
people would like us to believe. In
other words, it is more likely that
your Leopard Gecko is suffering from
a heavy load of parasites than from
Crypto.
Shedding issues are very common
in pet store Leopard Geckos. Most
of the time humid hides are not offered
to these hatchlings, so they are
left with stuck shed on themselves
that through rubbing can become
infected. Stuck shed can lead to
horrible sores on their bodies that
easily become infected in the poor
condition that these Leopard Geckos
are kept in.
The Truth
Does the hatchling Leopard Gecko
still look adorable to you? Are you
still willing to pay hundreds of dollars
in vet bills to possibly save its
life? Either way, I can’t force you
to make the decision I want you to
make. Believe me, I have been in
your position. I understand how
hard it is to walk away from a Leopard
Gecko I wish I could have saved.
Sometimes the best decision is the
hardest one to make.
What will happen to the pet store
Leopard Geckos? Most of them will
die, and a √ew will be lucky and go
to homes to live out a shorter, but
better life than the pet store would
have provided. However, if you walk
away, in the end you might be doing
future pet store Leopard Geckos a
favor. Why waste money? You have
to understand, all Leopard Geckos
are to chain pet stores is money in
the bank.
If you choose to buy a pet store
Leopard Gecko you are funding
these pet stores that are continuing
to bring in young, unhealthy, and
unhappy Leopard Geckos to sell to
people like you. I hate to be cruel
and straightforward, but you can
be literally funding the death of 20
or more Leopard Geckos that come
with the next shipment.
The Other (and Best) Option
So now here you are with your hands
in your pockets outside of the pet
store, an irritated look on your face
as you grudgingly accept the fact
that a pet store Leopard Gecko might
not be the best option for you.
Are you disappointed now? Do
you still want a Leopard Gecko? Pet
stores aren’t the only places that
have Leopard Geckos. There are
other places that have healthy Leopard
Geckos.

Anyone else think you need a license to possess anything living? Including children?

I will never buy from another pet store.
Prices are ridiculously high.
Animals are usually underfed, under supplemented and in sub par enclosures.
You never know the history of the animal.
And, when you buy them out of sickly leos, they just get another shipment in...

That being said, sometimes, hobbyists are no better than a retail outlet, Just because someone produced an animal, does not mean it is healthy.
No matter where you purchase your pets, make sure that you do a background check on who ever you are buying from.

-Nate
 
Last edited:

lifeshighways

New member
awwww Lipico: that lil girl of yours is too cute!!!! I love the way she's looking up like.. "Yes, you needed something Master?" *LOL*
 

Rajah

New member
Oh dear. What a depressing article. If I'd known all that before I bought my baby, I might've thought twice. But I have her now, and I want to give her the best life I possibly can. Oh, in case anyone is interested in an update of Lydia, I took her to Petco, and they got her to eat a meal worm. The girl was holding her and rubbed the side of her mouth to get her to open up, and that was that. I've been trying to do the same, but I still can't get her to eat any worms. I've tried more crickets, too, but she doesn't seem at all interested in hunting. If she doesn't eat in another day or two, she's going straight to the vet.

Lipico, you have such a darling lizard! What big, pretty eyes :) Did you get her from a pet store or from a breeder? I was told that mine was about two months old, too. How old is yours now?
 

lipico_Brazil

New member
Oh dear. What a depressing article. If I'd known all that before I bought my baby, I might've thought twice. But I have her now, and I want to give her the best life I possibly can. Oh, in case anyone is interested in an update of Lydia, I took her to Petco, and they got her to eat a meal worm. The girl was holding her and rubbed the side of her mouth to get her to open up, and that was that. I've been trying to do the same, but I still can't get her to eat any worms. I've tried more crickets, too, but she doesn't seem at all interested in hunting. If she doesn't eat in another day or two, she's going straight to the vet.

Lipico, you have such a darling lizard! What big, pretty eyes :) Did you get her from a pet store or from a breeder? I was told that mine was about two months old, too. How old is yours now?

Well, i think you didn't do wrong buying her. I think it's a good age to get one gecko. Mine came with2 months and in the beginning she didn't eat anything and she's still don't eating worms, she only accept to eat crickets.
Try to put her with higher temperature. It might stimulate her to eat.
Now my baby is 1 yo and 1 or 2 months i think.
Oh,and i got her from a friend.
(Sorry about the bad english...)
 

Rajah

New member
I have the temperature in her tank set to about 84. I use a UTH. I hope she eats soon. She just doesn't seem to have any interest. I'll keep trying, though. I wish I knew what she needed. She's so sweet :(
 

phearamedusa

New member
Rajah,

if this is a new Gecko, one you've just purchased, it is fairly normal for them not to eat for a few days while they adjust to the new surrounding. If your gecko doesn't eat after about a week some members have ripped crickets open(squished them even) then put in front of gecko and the smell/taste of it gets them to eat. Make sure your temps are good, if you're using a stick on the glass thermometer, they are not accurate, get one get has a probe to do indoor and outside temps. put the probe over the hot spot to get an accurate temp reading, or get an infrared temp gun. If everything is in the good range, be a little patient with the gecko, like I said give it a week and then take it to someone more experienced if you're still concerned.
You can get very nice animals at pet stores, but sometimes you can get a nasty surprise, keep an eye on it and try not to bother it too much for now, maybe place a small bowl of meal worms in the cage with it, then it can eat if hungry, don't forget to give the meal worms some carrot or something to nibble on.
good luck with your little cutie.
Melanie
ps. temps need to be min. of 70 and can go as high as 93 on the hot side. you need to have a range so they can move if too warm/cold to different spot
 
Last edited:
Top