New rescue super thin. Advice please?

cricket4u

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This first picture is where it was. I had put down a piece of garbage bag in her poo corner to catch it. And I forgot to take a picture before extracting the sample so it's in two pieces. The dark brown spots are some of the cocoa fibre that got blown onto it

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The second part is what I would consider the actual stool. It look so weird I don't even know what to say about it. It does smell like a normal stool though. I'm assuming it's the remains of the silkworm.

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Not much I see. It's tricky when looking at color through a photo, does it appear to be the color of what your feeding or normal brown? Has she ever had a normal solid brown mass for poop? It would be nice to rule out the possibility of impaction. I must question how sure was the vet that there was nothing lodged in the gut. Without diagnostics and a good vet all you can do is continue feeding and pray for the best.
 
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SamanthaLovely

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Not much I see. It's tricky when looking at color through a photo, does it appear to be the color of what your feeding or normal brown? Has she ever had a normal solid brown mass for poop?

No not much at all. It's like a fleshy pink colour. My nail polish is a bright sort of burnt orange if that helps with picture to real life comparison. She has had normal poos before. Not very big ones. Recently, before I found the blood, she was having semi solid ones. They were solid but there was some runnyness to them.
 

SamanthaLovely

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I've just given her some of the Oxbow food. She seems to like it. Problem is, I have no idea how much to give her. The package measures 2 tablespoons to each Kg. And since a Kg is 1000 grams I have no idea how to convert it down. I gave her about 0.2 ml for now. I'm thinking 0.5ml a day split between 2 feedings.
 

cricket4u

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I've just given her some of the Oxbow food. She seems to like it. Problem is, I have no idea how much to give her. The package measures 2 tablespoons to each Kg. And since a Kg is 1000 grams I have no idea how to convert it down. I gave her about 0.2 ml for now. I'm thinking 0.5ml a day split between 2 feedings.

http://www.oxbowanimalhealth.com/re...-+Carnivore+Care+Cat-Avian-Reptile-Ferret.pdf

She is only going to lick small amounts. It would be a different story if it was forced.
 

cricket4u

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This first picture is where it was. I had put down a piece of garbage bag in her poo corner to catch it. And I forgot to take a picture before extracting the sample so it's in two pieces. The dark brown spots are some of the cocoa fibre that got blown onto it

Stool1 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

The second part is what I would consider the actual stool. It look so weird I don't even know what to say about it. It does smell like a normal stool though. I'm assuming it's the remains of the silkworm.

Stool2 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Be careful that she does not swallow coco fiber accidently while eating shed. In her condition chances are she will not be able to pass it. It would probably be safer for now to use paper towel for her moist hide instead.
 

XoVictoryXo

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How upsetting about your vet! The one I went to at least waived the fee when I was doing follow ups. It sucks when you feel like the vet doesn't care about your pets health. I would find a new vet when you get a chance.
Like cricket said earlier the best you can do at this point is keep up with her feedings and make sure temps are right and wish for the best.
If it is by chance impaction then a warm bath cant hurt at all. All you can do is make her comfortable while u wait for fecal exam reports .
 
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SamanthaLovely

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How upsetting about your vet! The one I went to at least waived the fee when I was doing follow ups. It sucks when you feel like the vet doesn't care about your pets health. I would find a new vet when you get a chance.
Like cricket said earlier the best you can do at this point is keep up with her feedings and make sure temps are right and wish for the best.
If it is by chance impaction then a warm bath cant hurt at all. All you can do is make her comfortable while u wait for fecal exam reports .

I was hoping my vet wouldn't charge me for the visit because the examination wasn't really needed. But I guess it just goes how it goes with business'. I'm kind of afraid to stress her out by putting her in a bath. I might try it though cause she has some shed stuck on her nails.

I wish I knew how long the fecal will take. She said yesterday that the fecal for Sundrop, the prior cage mate of Frodo, would hopefully have results for my by friday. So here's hoping it goes fast and turns up negative for crypto.
 

aquamentus_11

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yeah, that's one of the reasons i opted out of veterinary medicine: you have to run your own clinic like a small business to stay afloat. i think sometimes ethics suffer because of it.
 

SamanthaLovely

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yeah, that's one of the reasons i opted out of veterinary medicine: you have to run your own clinic like a small business to stay afloat. i think sometimes ethics suffer because of it.

I always wanted to be a vet when I was young and my family wanted me to get into it but as I got older I realized I probably couldn't handle cutting animals open and operating. But I've been mulling over the idea of taking a Herpetology course. We've been thinking about getting involved in reptile rescue some how. Like fostering for the humane society. Because our human society really doesn't have alot of knowledge of reptiles. We do live within an hour or two of the Indian River Reptile Zoo so I was also looking at taking some of their courses if time and money permitted. Maybe volunteering if they have casual volunteering.
 

XoVictoryXo

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I always wanted to be a vet when I was young and my family wanted me to get into it but as I got older I realized I probably couldn't handle cutting animals open and operating. But I've been mulling over the idea of taking a Herpetology course. We've been thinking about getting involved in reptile rescue some how. Like fostering for the humane society. Because our human society really doesn't have a lot of knowledge of reptiles. We do live within an hour or two of the Indian River Reptile Zoo so I was also looking at taking some of their courses if time and money permitted. Maybe volunteering if they have casual volunteering.
Same here LOL I would be a bawling mess of tears on the floor every time I lost an animal. After some time I guess the vets become jaded, can't blame them really.
That's a great idea about the reptile rescue. I think you would be great at that. Lucky you living close to a reptile zoo!
Try the warm bath at night time when they are more active.
 

aquamentus_11

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some probably get used to it, but every vet i worked with shed a few tears or misted up after having to put an animal down. they just do it away from the owner usually
 

SamanthaLovely

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Ya that's true I suppose. Better to not break down in front of the owners. I'm excited for the reptile zoo to open on the first. Sadly I've never actually been to it. I driven by it alot and when I was younger I begged my mom to take me. But she's not big on reptiles. I've been to their presentations at fairs and schools though. I'll be dragging my boyfriend off to see it on his first day off after the first :D
 

cricket4u

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Just wondering if there has been any changes in Frodo?
Have you ever seen her drinking out of her water dish?
Are you providing them with a photoperiod? Even if it's light through a window?
 

SamanthaLovely

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Just wondering if there has been any changes in Frodo?
Have you ever seen her drinking out of her water dish?
Are you providing them with a photoperiod? Even if it's light through a window?

No I haven't seen her drinking out of it but she does like to walk through it the odd time when I see her out.
Yes. I have a large picture window in the room with them set up so that they get good sun during the day. Not that we're getting alot of sun right now.

There hasn't been a change though she does seem to really like the Oxbow food. She had a good poo in her tank this morning. Good for her condition.

But when we got home tonight there was this weird poo. I'm going to post a picture as soon as my phone charges. It looks very gritty.

Can you tell if a gecko is impacted or has sand in their system buy their stool. Because I could swear this is sand. And her poos tend to look gritty. She was kept on sand in the pet store. Could any of her symptoms be caused by impaction?
 

cricket4u

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No I haven't seen her drinking out of it but she does like to walk through it the odd time when I see her out.
Yes. I have a large picture window in the room with them set up so that they get good sun during the day. Not that we're getting alot of sun right now.

There hasn't been a change though she does seem to really like the Oxbow food. She had a good poo in her tank this morning. Good for her condition.

But when we got home tonight there was this weird poo. I'm going to post a picture as soon as my phone charges. It looks very gritty.

Can you tell if a gecko is impacted or has sand in their system buy their stool. Because I could swear this is sand. And her poos tend to look gritty. She was kept on sand in the pet store. Could any of her symptoms be caused by impaction?

Yes, it should have been ruled out by the vet.:shock: But, you were suppose to mention that to the vet so that she would do a radiograph. Yes, you could feel and see it in the stool. That was an important detail you left out.:yikes:
 
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SamanthaLovely

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Yes, it should have been ruled out by the vet.:shock: But, you were suppose to mention that to the vet so that she would do a radiograph. Yes, you could feel and see it in the stool.

I did mention it to the vet -.-
But this time I saw the other vet so she maybe wouldn't know that I mentioned it to the other one.
I will post the pic ASAP.
I'll ask her tomorrow when I take in the other two for their check up. Maybe that's why the male isn't as bad as the other two.
UUUUUGH!
 

SamanthaLovely

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I did mention it to the vet -.-
But this time I saw the other vet so she maybe wouldn't know that I mentioned it to the other one.
I will post the pic ASAP.
I'll ask her tomorrow when I take in the other two for their check up. Maybe that's why the male isn't as bad as the other two.
UUUUUGH!

I told her they were housed on sand but I now had them on paper towel but that was the vet who just diagnosed for worms right away so...

:/ I can see if she can do a radiograph on Sundrop who was Frodo's cage mate in the pet store. She's also not doing too well. We're hoping her Fecal results are back tomorrow.
 
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