Pictures of My This Year Baby

LivingScales

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One of my this baby! Could be a new species or subspecies!
 

LivingScales

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Hey! Barry.

Yes, it is a silver -eyed Cat Gecko.
You had a good deal on obtaining your silver-eyed cats. Viper geckos VS Silver-eyed Cats; Good for you! They are really wire to look at, isn't it?!

Oh! By the way, it is a CBB from 2005.
 

LivingScales

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As for the background information on the white-eyed cats, I don't know the exact location my supplier collect them (I asked, but he won't tell), but I guess he is collecting at somewhere at the border between Malaysia and Singapore.

At the moment, I am working with 25 pairs of them, so hopefully the gene pool won't be too weak to continue this white-eyed trait.
 

Riverside Reptiles

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Very cool looking. I see that the one in the pics is CBB '05. So have you been able to determine that this is an inheritable trait? Have you tried breeding a silver eyed to a black eyed? If so, what were the results? Is Marcus working with any of these silver eyed felinus? Are you selling any of the CBB silver eyed babies? If so, please send me a PM with info. Thanks!
 

kenya_1977

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Marcus isn't working with the "silver eyed cat gecko". My bet is it's a recessive trait, so it will take a backcross to bring it out.. if it's inheritable. I doubt this is a benefitial trait in the wild.
 

Riverside Reptiles

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My guess is that it's simple recessive as well. With 25 pair of them and CBB babies from them, I'm hoping our friend, "Livingscales" will be able to answer that. As for beneficial in the wild, it may or may not be. Perhaps that particular subspecies or locale (or whatever it happens to be) is less nocturnal. In which case, maybe it is of some benefit. If there's a fairly large wild population of these (I'm guessing that it must be more than just a few if "Livingscales" has 25 pair), it at least can't be much of a detriment. No matter what the case, I'd be interested in working with some to be able to help determine some of the answers to these questions and if nothing else, produce some felinus that are a little different. While I like the idea of locality specificity in breeding, I also like the idea of producing various color and pattern morphs as well. There's certainly room for both (IMHO). Take that striped looking male that you guys brought back for instance. Now imagine a red striped silver eyed felinus. In the future? Maybe...maybe not. That's half the fun of working with something new.
 

kenya_1977

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A noturnal species does not all the sudden become not noturnal. If there is only one example of this it suggest a recessive trait. Plus it more likely made it easier to find. When looking for these guys in the wild you go off of eye reflection.

There may be room for line breeding, but successful multiple generations of these WC lines should be established first. These guys are still in the beginning stages of being an established CB specimen .. it's going to be a while before we concentrate on "morphs" given that we're trying to make sure there is a secure bloodline first.
 

Riverside Reptiles

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I have to disagree with you. Although a nocturnal species certainly isn't going to all of a sudden turn diurnal, it is certainly possible that some populations of this species hunt more at dusk or dawn and have developed eyes that have become more adapted towards that. Again, if Livingscales has 25 pair of this "morph", there must be a decent sized population of them. And one can conclude from that that there's a reason that this particular poplulation of felinus has developed this trait. I'm not saying that I know any more than you do about "why" they've developed it. But it doesn't appear to be just a one off freak of nature like an albino.

And as for line breeding and when there's "room" for it...that's really for individual breeders to determine. I'm happy to keep my locale specific offspring documented as such. But that doesn't mean that I won't also line breed for specific traits were they to pop up. IMO there's room for both as long as it's kept documented.
 
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