New cave geckos [pics]

[gecko-kus]

Collected two new cave geckos today... had baught them both as g. luii however if you look at the first two pictures it shows the male, and I am not convinced that its luii... I have never seen any other goniurosaurs in person in detail so cannot say for sure but I do know that he doesnt look like any of my luiis, and I am wondering if he is lichtenfelderi or hainanensis and need some help from you guys to clear this up if possible:

Male:

His colours and patterns just dont seem right to be luii but it could just be that I have not seen the other species, and have only seen a certain form of the luii and have got this wrong but need to check lol...

Now on to the female... just had enough battery power in my camera for one picture of this beauty sadly but it shows a very unusual pattern on her body. From one side if you look at her, the bands look just like those of any luii but if you then look from the other side you see that the bottom two bands are connected which I thought was quite unusual (never seen that before) and makes her look extra nice... hope you enjoy:

Female:

 

[djmoondancer]

Those are luii, they have oddly formed banding similar to the "jungle" traits in Leopard Geckos but you can see they do have 4 bands in the body.

 

[Brian]

Are those the orange banded ones? The first just has an aberant band or something. I have noticed my orange are shapped differently slightly then my regular. I am tempted to do scale counts and stuff when I have time.

 

[gecko-kus]

I had a feeling that both were luii but there was just something about the first one which gave me quite a bit of doubt.... he just looks so different to my others.

Thanks

 

[modoki]

Hello gecko-kus,

sometimes the first thougth is the right thought. :wink:

The first pic shows G. hainanensis, second is indeed G. luii.

Cheers

Thomas

 

[kevin31]

Umn...Its easier to tell from the size of them, G.luii normally are alot bigger than G.hainanensis and they can grown up to 25cm(I have heard the maximum size is 30cm but that sounds amazing).but G.hainanensis are alot smaller ,normally about 18 cm maximam.

 

[gecko-kus]

lol I am so confused about what they are now :roll:

All I know for sure is that I really like them lol... All of my luii's are still fairly young and in comparison he is very much larger than they are, but as I said I only have younger luii's to compare to. I dont keep my gonis on these prmises, they are kept elsewhere along with my leopard geckos so cant measure him, but I will measure him tomorow. The first is one from 2003 so that measurementnshould be its full size... Its certainly not anywhere near 25cm though so it probably is hainanensis.... :roll: lol dear me

 

[geckomaster]

I disagree on the first one being Hainanensis. There are definitely four bands anterior to the hind legs (though on is aberrant) and the shot of the head shows the very distinct Luii head structure. It just happens to be of dull coloration.

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