How's the Nikon N65?

Matt

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Hi, I am going to be taking a photography class soon and the class reauires an SLR film camera. I figure this would be a great way to kill two birds with one stone, get the camera for the class and get a camera for gecko photos. I was just wondering if anyone had the Nikon N65 or N55 and how they think it is . Thanks for any info you can give.

-Matt
 

yuri

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Hey Matt,

This looks like a good entry level film SLR. The only drawbacks are:

- only 1/90th flash sync (more expensive shutters on other cameras will go up to 1/250th)(some higher end bodies when used with appropriate flash units, will allow flash synchronization throughout the entire shutter speed range). Higher flash sync allows daylight balanced fill flash to be used more.

- won't meter when used with the older (very plentiful and affordable) manual focus lenses. Lots of sharp, cheap lenses available, that can be used on this camera, HOWEVER, without the use of the meter.

Still, this is a very good entry level camera, that should be quite inexpensive.

A more important question is - What lenses are you planning on getting?

Yuri
 

ryanm

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It's a good camera, but are you required to use a film SLR for the class? If not, I'd recommend looking at a D50. It is compatible with all the digital and film lenses, plus all the old manual lenses, it takes great pictures, and synchs up to 1/250th. My D70 actually goes to 1/500th, but the D50 takes less noisy pictures at higher ISOs, which is a worthwhile trade off IMO.

ryanm
 

Matt

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Nikon N65

Yuri,
Thanks alot for pointing out those things, I didnt even realize that. As for the lenses, I am still not sure as what to get, primarily because I dont know enough about them. If you could give some recommendations that would be great. Also any recommendations on other good entry level cameras would be greatly appreciated.

Ryanm,
Yea, the class requires and SLR film camera, so that rules out the D50 i guess. Any other advice on what to get would be welcome.

Thanks for the in depth and quick replies.

-Matt
 

yuri

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Re: Nikon N65

Matt,

For lenses, what type of photos do you want to take (e.g. photos of my geckos; close ups of gecko eyes; friends and family photos; landscapes etc.)?

As for other good entry level cameras, that requires some thought on your part. You should look at what accessories are offered by the various manufacturers, what lenses they offer, flash units etc. You don't want to start buying up equipment without research, only to find out in a year or two that your brand of camera does not make a lens that can do this or the camera does not have the ability to do that. Of course, this is a great catch-22 situation (need to know photography to know what you want to do and expect from your equipment, but you are just starting out).

For example, one very nice thing about the Nikon line is the introduction of the D200 camera body (digital). It is a very nice camera that will work with many of the older (AI, AIS) manual focus lenses. There are tons of these lenses out there, now you can use them on a digital body as well as a film body. But, you might not be in a position to buy a digital body just yet. However, this camera might be something that will interest you a year or two. Do some research, think about it, ask more questions, think some more.

I personally shoot with Canon (at home and at work), but have owned Nikon, Minolta and still own Bronica (medium format - massive negatives!). Hard to go very wrong, but a little research beforehand can pay off big in a few years.

A good place to get your feet wet research-wise is here http://www.photo.net/equipment/35mm/. Give this section some serious time.

For ideas on what is involved in different types of photography and different techniques, start here http://www.photo.net/learn/.

I would also spend some time at a good public library going through their photography books. Grab a stack of them, sit down and flip through and look at images that interest you and take notes on the equipment they used and the techniques they used. This will give you a better idea of what you might want out of a camera system. Then take out some books and go home and read them.

Going with a film camera to start is a great way to learn photography. I hope you get to spend time in a wet darkroom as opposed to a digitally based one. I believe this will give you a very good grounding in photography.

Photography, like herpetoculture, is a great hobby/job/profession. To be successful in either, you have to read a lot and practice a lot.

Yuri

Matt said:
As for the lenses, I am still not sure as what to get, primarily because I dont know enough about them. If you could give some recommendations that would be great. Also any recommendations on other good entry level cameras would be greatly appreciated.
 

ryanm

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What I look for in a camera body is a "feel" that I like. A camera that is comfortable to hold and shoot, has buttons and switches in places that are comfortable to reach while just holding the camera or in shooting position, etc. You'll find that as long as you go with a major manufacturer, the features of the cameras in the same approximate price point will be pretty much the same. One may have faster flash synch, but the other has better spot metering, etc. It will end up being more about which body is the most comfortable to shoot, because the more comfortable you are with the camera and its features, the easier it is to capture the shot when you see it happening.

Being able to almost effortlessly bring the camera into position, get focus, set up the exposure, and catch the shot before it's gone is essential for candids and action shots. It is less important in macrophotography, portraits, and landscape shots, because you can take a dozen pics of the same scene at different exposures and pick the one you like. So in those fields comfort is less important, but still helps you get the shot you want with less work.

Once you find a body that is comfortable to you, as long as you pick a major brand you're in good shape. All the major lens manufacturers make their lenses for all the major camera bodies. Now, you can't get Nikon lenses for a Canon body, or vice versa, but you can get Sigma and other glass for either, and Nikon and Canon both make similar lenses for their own cameras (e.g. you can get a 70-200mm F2.8 with image stabilization from both Nikon and Canon).

So, my recommendation would be to go to a camera store and take some test shots in the store. Since you're talking about film SLRs you wouldn't want to shoot a bunch of actual pictures, but set up and take shots without film and see which body feels the most comfortable to you. Even if you don't know what the aperature and shutter speed settings do yet, play with them and see which body is the most comfortable to make those adjustments while you're shooting.

As for lenses, 28-50 mm is generally used for wide angle, landscape-type shots. 50-100mm lenses are usually portrait lenses, and larger than 100 mm is generally for telescopic shots. Of course there is a wide variety of zoom lenses that are capable of covering more than one of those ranges, and they're usually good multipurpose lenses. Most new SLRs will come with a lens, and it is generally something like a 50-135mm (maybe slightly wider range, maybe slightly narrower), which is good for all kinds of stuff and makes a good "walking around" lens. But don't go for the widest zoom range you can find right off the bat, because more often than not those lenses don't perform well at the extremes of their range. The 50mm prime lens is the "standard" and you will probably spend time in the class talking about them, so it may be worthwhile to get one. Otherwise, if you can only afford one lens, look for a zoom in the 50-200mm range for the most flexibility, until you can afford some other lenses. Something like that should allow you to do everything from landscape to portraits to reasonably distant telescopic shots while you get a better idea of what you really want in lenses.

ryanm
 

Matt

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camera and lens

Hey,
Thanks so much for the advice, through reading and asking different people I am getting a better understanding of everything. Thanks again for your help, it will definetly help me in choosing the camera and lens that is right for me.

-Matt
 
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