Inexpectata

[Greenstar]

I am just curious how often these, if ever become availilbe in the US? How much do they go for and how difficult they are to care for? I know they are probably one of the rarer phelsuma species, but they are so awesome looking. I especailly like the color contrast between males and females.

Thanks
Danny

 

[Haroldo]

I am just curious how often these, if ever become availilbe in the US? How much do they go for and how difficult they are to care for? I know they are probably one of the rarer phelsuma species, but they are so awesome looking. I especailly like the color contrast between males and females.

Thanks
Danny

There are a few keepers in the U.S., but you simply have to find out through networking. :wink: They go for whatever the seller/breeder wants for them. They aren't a grandis, so if you don't have some serious Phelsuma experience under your belt, this is a species I'd enjoy just looking at pics of if I were you. Indeed they are one of the less kept species kept in U.S. collection and they color is quite impressive. There are however tons of "starter" species that possess nice color as well.
-hAROLD

 

[Palex134]

Also another idea, before you get Inexpectata, try going for ornata. They will be cheaper and as beautiful, I personally think they are more beautiful then inexpectata. Just to get some experience with some of the harder Phelsuma.

 

[yuri]

The few I know about were brought in a couple of years ago. I think someone also brought another group in last year too (from Europe).

Last year a pair was being offered for $750, but they were going to someone who was known to have enough Phelsuma experience. They are breeding here, although I don't know how well the offspring are faring.

I am just curious how often these, if ever become availilbe in the US? How much do they go for and how difficult they are to care for? I know they are probably one of the rarer phelsuma species, but they are so awesome looking. I especailly like the color contrast between males and females.

Thanks
Danny

 

[Greenstar]

Why are they so much harder to keep than other species? I am just curious how you guys break down the different groups of phelsuma by difficulty. I am still very new to day geckos, but the hobby/hobbyists seem to be very similair to the dart frog hobby which I have kept/been apart of for 9 years. The similarities I see are; that many hobbyist no matter how small of a collection are dedicated to their animals, that certain easier species will breed with little coaxing, enclosures can be elaborate or basic, the feeding needs to be varied yet regular, new species are still be found every so often, designer morph breeding is frowned upon and the importance of keeping subspecies seperate is emphasised, and they are an amazing, intresting animal. Maybe I am wrong but thats the way I see it.


Danny

 

[lessthantito]

I would also like to know what makes the Inexpectata harder to keep and breed I can't find much info on lots of Phelsuma species that interest me

 

[danscantle]

I keep coming back to this point. Why waste a good bit of time looking for species that are extremely rare and are not the best captives?

P. inexpecta is extremely fast (one of the fastest geckos I have seen) , and extremely shy. You can't camp out in front of a cage and expect to watch them - you'll end up seeing blue/green streaks. Seriously.

They are around. There will be more around in the future, but right now there are Phelsuma coming in that may not come in for much longer.

 

[lessthantito]

like.....

 

[danscantle]

everything from madagascar.

 

[Haroldo]

Daniel summed it up very nicely...

Honestly, much of the info is out there...just not online. You might try buying some real books on Phelsuma and actively looking for articles on them--they're surely out there...

 

[lessthantito]

is there a book like the leaftail book or the rhacodactylus book for phelsuma? I have seen a couple but none are as detailed as these books

 

[Palex134]

I really like the Pro breeder series Day Geckos, it has Phelsuma, Lygodactylus, Naultinus, Sphaerodactylus, and Gonatodes. It has lots of detailed info on location, descritions, and care as well as great pictures. I personally like it better then the Day Geckos in captivity book. I bought my Pro breeder series book from Nathan for a great deal!

 

[Sgvreptiles]

That book is my bible!

 

[Palex134]

That book is my bible!

I agree, Ive read it cover to cover, minus the Naultinus section, and I still love reading it. I enjoy the info on the describing of the names of each species, and the specific details about each species.

 

[lessthantito]

thanks I will be looking for that one then any other that are that good and informative?

 

[Sgvreptiles]

Thats all you will need.Maybe get the daygecko book by leann.But i havent read it.So i might get it and see how it is!

 

[Greenstar]

I understand they are an advanced gecko it just I am gather as info on phelsuma, especailly those that really draw my attention. I fully understand the perdicment madagascar is in and how important it is that the geckos end-up in the hands of someone who can correctly care and reproduce them. I am inquiring out of curiousity more than anything, I had no idea how fast, difficult or rare they were and I assumed asking was a good place to start.

Danny

 

[Palex134]

Thats all you will need.Maybe get the daygecko book by leann.But i havent read it.So i might get it and see how it is!

like I said, I have it as well, not too big of a fan.

 

[Marcel Naumburg]

Well, they are not really difficuilter to keep as Ornata and also not harder to breed. My results are all in all the same ... nothing special in keeping and breeding this specie. But it is correct: they are shy. If you go slowly to the terrarium, you have a good chance to see them, but just one fater movemtn and they start to run But to get just one good picture is a dream, if you do not go outside to take any shots...