urgent grandis sexing needed

[Animal34343]

i bought two "adult female grandis" and picked them up tonight. they were delivered in a pillow case, so there was no way of telling sex until i got them home, he said one was a little small but still a female. when i got home i discovered one was a male, and the other is looking like a male. i just need confirmation on this from some experts here on the forums.

the pores are a lot more defined in person, but you can still see them in the photo

 

[chadosborne]

This ones a male!

 

[Haroldo]

I'm not positive. Females of many species possess femoral pores, but I can't tell if those are dark/pitted. Try to get a clear (non-blurry) picture of the ventral area again...

 

[camo]

Male

 

[Animal34343]

thanks guys, I will try again to get a clear shot of the pores. here is the link where I am currently debating with the seller himself, I would greatly appreciate it if anyone would like to help: Leonard Giordano of Salty City Aquariums(Bad Guy) - <FONT COLOR=RED>Board of Inquiry®</FONT>

 

[Ingo]

The pic is fuzzy, but you can spot waxy secrets protruding significantly from the pores. Also the overall greenisch colouration of this area is typical: 100% male

 

[Animal34343]

here is a clearer pic and its obvious that its a male:

 

[Haroldo]

Now I'll amen that pic. You've certainly got a male!

 

[Animal34343]

Now I'll amen that pic. You've certainly got a male!

thats the problem, it was supposed to be a female

 

['stoph]

auch...try to trade it with a female.

 

[Animal34343]

yeah the guy eventually made the deal right after a relatively long debate, so now I have gotten my two females.

 

[RampantReptiles]

Wow what a jerk!
I dealt with Leonard before and I didnt have that many problems. I am LeoFan11 in this post... Salty City (Leonard Giordano) INQUIRY - <FONT COLOR=RED>Board of Inquiry®</FONT>

I ruffled his feathers pretty good with that post, made him start adding his guarantee to every ad he ever made on kingsnake in capital letters. I thought it was pretty funny though that he would only replace your animal with the purchase of another animal.:shock:
I definitely wouldnt deal with him again, he says he knows what he is doing but he obviously doesnt!

Wow small world... Sorry you had such a bad experience but at least it got settled! Good luck with everything.
Michelle