Regenerated tails make better breeders?

Animal34343

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I recently saw an ad on Kingsnake for a proven pair of Fimbriatus and the seller said the female has a regenerated tail, which makes it a better breeder. I was wondering if there is any truth in this. I don't think that this would make a difference, but does anyone else have any input?
 

aquapimp

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I was baffled by that as wel... Increased "bulbousness"? More fat storage? clever marketing?
 
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Animal34343

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Yeah, I think it's just a selling tactic because a regenerated tail is normally looked at as an unfavorable trait and he is just trying to make it seem more favorable.
 

thrower

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I have had a regen produce eggs, but I tend to think of those that lose their tail as the "weaklings" of the group. Seems like the more dominant would be the better breeders. I think the guy is just blowing smoke.
 

miguel camacho!

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i remember an old conversation in which i think it was ben smith who postulated that regenerated tails could possibly decrease success with courtship/copulation, especially since the tails seem to help them grip while doing the act. i cant remember the details though. loooong time ago.
 

Animal34343

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I have had a pair of U. henkeli since May and at the end of June she laid one egg that I believe to be fertile. I have my doubts though since it is on day 152, but theres no mold or denting or anything else. She has put out a pair of infertile eggs once a month every month since the first egg. The first egg has been the only one ever laid in the nest box, which is another reason I believe it is fertile. When I hold a flashlight to the egg it glows yellow, but I can see a faint outline of something in there, so I don't know, I guess I will just have to wait and see. All of my geckos are cooling now, so I have my hopes for fertile eggs after they are done cooling.
 

Calfirecap

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Marketing BS

Sounds like an attempt to make a less desirable animal appear more favorable. I do believe a tailess female can breed, but I can't see it being any better. The tail has its functions in the animals everyday living and I would think a tailess Satanic would be at a disadvantage. Additionally, as for marketing, much harder to sell.

Lawrence
 

cliff_f

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That sounds like the guy is just wanting to sell the animals, so he is trying to make them sound more appealing.
 

miguel camacho!

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I have had a pair of U. henkeli since May and at the end of June she laid one egg that I believe to be fertile. I have my doubts though since it is on day 152, but theres no mold or denting or anything else. She has put out a pair of infertile eggs once a month every month since the first egg. The first egg has been the only one ever laid in the nest box, which is another reason I believe it is fertile. When I hold a flashlight to the egg it glows yellow, but I can see a faint outline of something in there, so I don't know, I guess I will just have to wait and see. All of my geckos are cooling now, so I have my hopes for fertile eggs after they are done cooling.

dont jump the gun, never crack open eggs that still look good. try candling. i have hatched out many henkeli eggs in the past, and some just take forever to hatch. if they're bad, you'll notice...like you said, mold or smell or something will clue you off. have you tried candling the egg?
 

Animal34343

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I candle it through the plastic container, I don't want to pick the egg up by hand because I don't want to crack it. When I candle it, it glows yellow, but I see a faint outline of the gecko. Since uroplatus eggs are hard shelled does that mean they won't swell as the gecko is growing like cresteds or leopards?
 

miguel camacho!

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yes, that's right. the thing is, it helps to have a new versus developed egg to compare to. whenever ive candled, you can tell something is in their by seeing the blood vessels in the egg and/or shadows cast by some object within the egg (obviously the embryo). picking the egg up will not crack it unless some accident happens. the only egg i ever had crack when i picked it up was the time i picked up the egg at the same moment the gecko decided to hatch....and it just happened to be a henkeli.

but waiting and letting it sit also does just as good, doesnt speed things up to candle it ;)
 

Animal34343

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The thing that throws me off is that I have two gargoyle eggs that are about to hatch and when I candle them I can't see any light at all through them and it's a really bright flashlight, so I know theres something in there blocking the light. Shes laid about eight other infertile eggs and they have all been misshapen and laid in the branches; this one is perfectly round and laid in the box, and it's almost a different color yellow, darker than normal infertiles. I can see faint shadows in it.
 
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