My N.l.levis & Hypo U.milii

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Fatum

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I bought these little creatures in czech republic 2,5 months ago. I'm amazed how fast female levis can grow, 2 month ago she was 6 grams and now she's 16 grams, i hope she'll be ready to breed in a few months, but it can take a little bit longer for male to grow up because he's only 7 grams by now.
I bought U.milii as a female but i heard that she's too young to be sure, so we'll see what she'll be. She's 7 grams.
 

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kanopy

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Nice animals,
Just be sure to wait enough before you breed the female. The most common problems with them appear when people are too hurry to breed them. I just would say wait for her to be 18 month old and 25g. Earlier is possible, but at your own risks...
Fred
 
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Fatum

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Thanks.

kanopy said:
The most common problems with them appear when people are too hurry to breed them.
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What health problems you have on mind? I'm looking for some more informations about levis or generaly nephrurus health but i can't find anything valuable. Maby you can recommend me some worth reading publications. In most of caresheets which i've found was only one inforamtion, that levis are hardy nothing more.
 
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kanopy

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Hi Fatum, the most frequent problem if you breed a female that is not ready is egg retention. The female, despite the fact you offer her all the conditions she needs, will not be able to lay their eggs and will die if nothing is done.
Also if not completly adult, the female will use her energy to lay eggs instead of using it to finish her growth. They are then more prone to calcium crash (that is even more true with geckos that lay hard shelled eggs).
As with animals that lay too many eggs within one breeding season, I believe breeding females at a too young age has also a negative effect on their ability to breed on a long term basis.
No one can exactly tell you when a female is ready but what we can tell is, by experience, if the female has been well fed and is in good conditions, 18 month old is a wise age to start her to breed.
That's better to wait a few more months, even if they could have bred before, than taking risk with them.
Just my 2 cents,
Fred
 
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Fatum

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Thanks for advise. I saw many opinions about breeding these geckos, a number of opnions and breeders as i can see is the same. Even on this forum each breeder is telling different things. I think that i'll have to make a mathematic calculation, i'll just estimate the average of those opinions ;-)
 
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kanopy

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Fatum,
I don't see any reasons to take any risk with your animals, waiting 6 more months is nothing for the health of your animals.
That sure you can hear people have bred their specimens at 1 year old, 10 month old maybe and their animals have no suffered from that.
But I have kept Nephrurus species for long enough to tell you that I have myself already lost specimens because I was too in a hurry. I talk now beacause I have made trials and errors.
When I look back I tell myself that I was silly to do such things and that's something I will not do again. So I can hardly have another speech there.
I believe the most successfull breeders here are also those who have the wisdom to wait the requisite time.
Fred
 
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