Mack/Bell Hatchling?

[Royal-City-Reptiles]

K, so I got a Mack Snow (not het for Bell as far as I know) male to pair up with my nice Bell Albino female, and she layed just one egg from him, which had been in the incubator for a few months, looking healthy. The other day i saw it had deflated... so I thought the little one was hatching! But the egg looked odd, so I went to touch it and it was literally as hard as a rock. There's no way in hell it would have been able to get out. The egg was so hard that it was even difficult for me to get into it. (which I made the decision to try and do, I'm not asking if anyone agrees with that). Does anyone have any idea what could cause this? There were no fluctuations in temperature...
But anyways, a bright pink face with bright red eyes appeared, and all I was hoping at the time was that it was alive... :shock:
But afterwards I got thinking... in order to get a Mack Snow Bell Albino, wouldn't the Mack Snow male need to be het for Bell Albino?? Or is it still possible in some way to get a Mack Bell Albino from just a regular Mack Snow and a Bell? :?
Here's a pic of it to show it's colouring and red eyes... it was still alive at this time (i moved it onto a damp paper towel, it was very thin & it's skin and everything was sooo dry, aswell as the rest of the insides of the egg.) The poor little one died yesterday though... which I'm very upset about.

Thanks for your input,
-Deb

 

[sheenaschlytter]

wow interesting I would say that yes you can still get a bell if the father is not it just would be a het for a mac snow. as for the egg have you hatched other eggs before was this way harder then you have experienced because I know mine get reallu white and big and firm a week or two before hatching then soften again this baby looks undeveloped so it could be a birth defect or it was just not ready yet

 

[RampantReptiles]

As far as I know you would have to have a het bell X bell to make a bell albino. Otherwise you would produce all hets. And there is no such thing as a het for mack snow, due to the Co-dominate nature of the Mack Snow/SS gene. You could consider a Mack Snow to be the het form of the Super Snow...

 

[RampantReptiles]

OR bell X bell
OR het bell X het bell
can make a bell...

 

[Royal-City-Reptiles]

Sheena:
well... I know it's impossible to get an albino het mack snow like u mentioned ( mack is co-dom, albino is a simple recessive), I was just unsure if the Mack had to be het for me to get results i did.
As for the egg though, I've never had an egg deflate a few months in and get hard as a rock. The baby is fully developed, I think it may be so thin because it didnt get a chance to absorb the last nutrients of the egg, I'm not sure. It does look as though it was ready to hatch though But the egg didn't even have a slit in it, it had just deflated and turned hard as a rock :?

Rampant:
So there's no doubt that the mack snow male had to be het for Bell albino I guess.

-Deb

 

[RampantReptiles]

Yep yep!

 

[Royal-City-Reptiles]

Thanks for the help!
thats what i was thinking, but just the fact that it was sold as just a mack snow, and in some weird coincidence (since i paired him with my bell) turned out to be a mack het bell... just weird. But very good

 

[MK Geckos]

Deb,

I've read/seen in Leopard Geckos color pigment is the last thing to develop when the geckos are in the eggs. The hatchling could have died before it developed its pigment.

I'm sorry for your loss,

Kyle

 

[Royal-City-Reptiles]

Hmm, that could also be a possibility...
I guess I'll only know after I breed them again. She got a little thin after she layed the last time, so I'm giving her a good break and fattening her up again
If I get some Mack Bell hatchlings though I'll for sure make a post!

-Deb