Touchy Subject; Hybrids

Royal-City-Reptiles

Royal-City-Reptiles

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I am going to start by saying this;
If you do not like hybrids, no need to post here.

Who is working with the Chahoa/Crestie hybrid?
What is the market price for these animals?
Are the majority of these animals fertile?
Can you breed hybrid to hybrid?
Is the care any different than either of the separate species?
Are there any commonly noticed physical or neurological issues?

-Nate
 
rhacoboy

rhacoboy

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A friend of mine is working with them, If you would like i'll pm. u her email address. She has had very good results and hers are among some of the most beautiful i've seen. Most of hers turn out bright bright orange with plenty of black markings. For babies i believe she asks between 250-350(usually) and for bright orange adults 500-750. Their prices favor the chahoua prices more than the cresties. As of now she has only produced males, fertile males. She has also experimented by breeding a chahouaxcrestie to a crestie. The results have been stunning. Most babies turned out a grayish-(idk) color with what would be referred to reverse pin striping in the crestie world.

Also, I'd like to ask something to the people who are against hybreds. And i'm not trying to be nasty and i'm not saying they're right or wrong. But what are you guys against? Its not like it couldn't happen in the wild. Its not likely but it could. And its not like the breeders are forcing them to do it. They put them together and the geckos feel comfortable enough to hook up with the opposite specie.
 
Royal-City-Reptiles

Royal-City-Reptiles

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rhacoboy said:
Also, I'd like to ask something to the people who are against hybreds. And i'm not trying to be nasty and i'm not saying they're right or wrong. But what are you guys against? Its not like it couldn't happen in the wild. Its not likely but it could. And its not like the breeders are forcing them to do it. They put them together and the geckos feel comfortable enough to hook up with the opposite specie.
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I'd be interested in her email.

As far as what I am against. Anything that isn't natural. If they can breed on their own and create viable offspring (fertile or not), I'm for it.
When needles, syringes, beakers, microscopes and artificial insemination come in to play, I am against it, that is un-natural, and IMO, unethical.

-Nate
 
Lunar Gecko

Lunar Gecko

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Nate I agree with you 100%.

Also I don't think (I could be way off here, I have not been reading much on this lately) that anything other than males have been produced at this point. So for 2ed gen. it would require breeding back to a crested or a chewie female. If you find any other info or if you can verify what I have said to be true or false, please post back here or PM me. I'll see if I can find any info as well.
TTFN
 
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klarson

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Breeding Hybrids-thats me

Hi,
My name is Kim, I live in Mich., I've been working on the the Hybrids for, I don't know.... 4 years, maybe more. That's a picture of one my first babies, Matt Parks put on his site.
I have had two females in F1, I am now trying to breed these to a Chahoua male and the other to another Hybrid. I believe the females take longer to mature like the Chahoua females. I have had males breed at an age compairable to Crested males.
I have also had Hybrids bred back to Cresteds, as it said in the tread.

For those who do not like them fine, but if you are against these, you should be against all man made animals, that means all mutations. No more pretty colors, or those without color. These are not Zoo quality animals, no matter what you might think, these are pets. They will never see the wild, ever. To all the people who may think I'm doing this to get rich, think again, I have lost tons of money.

I'm not much of a writer, more lurker. I type too slow, but if you have questions I'll try to anwser them. Thanks for caring at all, I started this just because I liked them. Kim
 
Lunar Gecko

Lunar Gecko

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@ klarson

Welcome! So there have been males and females hybrids produced at this point. Very cool... I have a few questions.
When you make your original pairs is it best to go with a chewie male and crestie female? Whats the incubation time run?
 
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x69bas420

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Im by all means no expert but from what ive read, chahoua eggs are hard shelled and crestie eggs are soft. Therefore, It could be hard on a female crestie ( if the eggs do infact come out hard shelled). While chahoua females only produce 3-4 clutches per year, it might be safer (IMO) to breed Chahoua female to male Crestie. Im interested in peoples first hand experiance in the matter.
 
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klarson

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Hi,

Sorry, I haven't been on in a long while. I haven't had two seconds to rub together.
Yes, sometimes is hard for babies to hatch. I have never had an egg bound female, so no problem there. It takes about 95 days usually but I've had some hatch sooner then that and I've had some die in the shell because I'm guessing they couldn't get out. I have cut some babies out. I have only put Chahoua males and Crested females together, for the 50 X 50. Here's some pictures, the one is a female F1.
Kim
 

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