Multi-Male Uroplatus phantasticus groups?

[zBrinks]

Hi all,

I have 2 36''x24''x18'' vivariums I am building for satanics. I currently have 3.3, and was thinking of trying 1.1 in one viv, and 2.2 in another. To those of you who have personal experience housing multiple males in the same viv, what do you think? They would be very densely planted vivaria, with lots of fine branches for climbing.

thanks in advance,

- Zach

 

[JennaYoung99]

i have heard of it being done with smaller uros, phants and eben. i personally haven't tried it. i'm sure if you have a big enough tank with plenty of foliage and branches, they should do fine.

 

[miguel camacho!]

theres no problem with doing it, just keep a watchful eye on them once they're active at night. if you hear any squeaks come from the enclosure, be sure to take a look. in my experience, male-male aggression is something that takes a while to come out, but that's not to say that it cant happen right away. also take careful notice if you find any breeding going on, males tend to be a lil more combative when they're trying to find a mate.

 

[RFB2]

Like Miguel said, keep a close eye. I have not had any issue with mine as of yet.


Good luck,
Rob

 

[zBrinks]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I had read some accounts of it before, and don't have a problem isolating males if need be. I figure with 6 square feet of floor space, males should be able to stay out of each other's way. I also plan on adding more females after next year's imports (hopefully). I want to get as many bloodlines as possible for cb production. These geckos are way too awesome to lose from the hobby after Madagascar finally closes its doors to export.

 

[Jody Ettema]

I have kept multiple uroplatus guentheri males with no problems. in vivaria of 120 cm height, 60 cm width en 50 cm length, but it doesn't mean that it will be of no concern to other situations

 

[RamseysReptiles]

Years back when I had U. ebenaui I had 2.3 in a 20gallon long and they bred the first year I got them and stayed that way just fine for more than a year. It almost made me think that the small Uros might be similar to the dart frogs in that a reverse trio might help stimulate breeding behavior. Anyone let me know if you've observed this as well.

 

[ReptileJay]

I'm keeping a 2.3 group in a highly foliated 45 tall, and it does seem that having more than one male DOES stimulate breeding. The only time I've witnessed breeding was when both males were interested in the female. I haven't had any problems with aggression, although I'm ALWAYS watching for it... I don't anticipate any problems though... it seems like the boys get along great.

 

[kbsdsad]

Sorry to resurface this thread from so long ago. Has anyone had success keeping multi-male groups of U. henkeli? I wouldn't do anything that could endanger my animals... their health and well-being comes first. I have an empty 75 gallon and I was wondering if a 2:2 group would be okay in a heavily planted terrarium. Thanks!

 

[gollum]

I had some problems with 2.1 Pietschmanni in the same cage.

 

[miguel camacho!]

i wouldn't keep more than a pair in a 75 gallon. if you got some more space, i think it would be possible with henkeli.

on the other hand, i dont see any practical reason to keep multiple males together. when i tried it with henkeli, the males were instantly combative to the point i had no choice but to separate them.

so based on the space and my experience, i would not recommend keeping multiple male henkeli together.

 

[Scott F]

I had problems with keeping two male henks together, one dropped his tail and was beat up pretty good around the head area, there wasn't even any females in the tank to spur courtship competition.

 

[kbsdsad]

Thanks for all of the advice! Separate terrariums it is.

 

[jadrig]

I kept my first pair of U.Henkeli together in an inverted 29 for almost a year. They ended up being a pair of males. I did not notice any extreme confrontation(like Phelsuma), but they were my first Uros so i did not separate them until i really noticed another pair of hemipenes. Right now i have 2.2 and each one is in a separate enclosure. The 2 females are not quite ready to breed, nutritionally. I have a few large tanks, but i think that they do much better being housed individually. I did have a 1.1 together for about 2 years with no problems. I will probably keep one pair together and introduce the second pairto eachother periodically.

But, i dont see any point in keeping them all together.

 

[crestedtimm]

short.

2.1 guentheri-no problems in years.

2.2 phantasticus-one male had signs of being bitten and appeared abused.

introducing a male would likely induce courtship, then the weaker one should be removed.

Timmm