the start of a future l.williams 75g viv

midget

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hey, well i new here. so today i started my 75g l.williams viv. i plan on having a small colony of 1:4. do to williams being 80$ a pop i plan to buy 2 at a time, since i have a low budget.also since i'll have a large water section plan to keep a dwaft puffer as they stay small, hungry lil buggers and active. i also plan to keep Blue Azureus dart frog since there larger tend to stay low and have a nice color. i know mixing speces is not advised, but i have kept all three before exept william but i have kept yellow head cousin of theres. conditions are almost exactly the same. as i know puffers are mess filrtion will be mesh for mech filtration and plastic scubbies for bio filtration.

For the backround i choose great stuff as i have used before for dart frogs cresties and other lizards. it will be covered with exo-terro forest moss. i have a false bottom. for drainage i use those clay balls. i have a water fall that flows into to river which then flow into the larger water section. the waer fall pump is a quite one pump on sure of what size but it pretty good flow. subtrate will be DIY mixture. plan on using leaves also for food cver and frog cover. for plants bromiladids, mosses, ferns, and others. what do you think of using carinovers plant to keep bugs in check well the ones that mange to settle in anyway.

lighting will be a 4bulb t-5 fixture. plan on using 2-10.0 zilla,1-5000k,1-6500k. hating will be done by ethire a 25 or 50 watt heat lamp,a nd a small 50 watt aqurium heater.

feeding
williams-baby roachs,fruit flys, pin head to week old crix, rice floar beatleas, meal worms, springtails, and a ever so often wax worms

Azureus- ***********************************

dwaft puffer-ghost shrimp,blood worms, and some flake food unsure now tho.

here some pix

tools and supplies
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the start igrone the messed up black trim
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flase bottom and piping
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geting somewhere
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waterfall
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let me know what you think. any question feel free to ask, glad to help ya.
 

Airedale

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Order from Switzer Reptiles. They sell a pair for $75. Instead of paying $80 for one, why not spend $75 for two. Mine are both healthy.

And I wouldn't go with carnivorous plants. When I got my williamsi, the small size overwhelmed me.
 

midget

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well i was at walmart to pick of latex gloves to spread the silcoe on the bacground and i found a 4" high vilousty fan perfect amout air to keep my viv ventalted. it only be on for an hour or two a day at most
 

Airedale

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Pics look pretty good! Looks like a great project. If only I could afford a project like that, lol.
 

midget

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lol man i saved my bday money back in jan lol, also for helping with the move i got another 120 :yahoo: the tank and light i had allready. man i need a job it sucks just move all the jobs are taken :(
 

Airedale

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You and me both. I don't want to work in my mom's restaurant, making minimum wage washing dishes, but I guess I might have to sooner or later. If you ever need any help with the little guys, let me know.
 

Douwe

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Keep us posted on the progress please? If the tank has enough hight and dry spots the mix should be fine. I keep kimhowelli and puncturatus in all of my frog tanks without problems. Just be sure there are enogh dry spots, even azureus don't like wet feet all of the time but they will climb up to a meter or so, and give the blue one's (the gecko's) a place under the sun. Could you tell me the measurements of the tank?

grts Douwe
 
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midget

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48lx18wx20t thanks. won't be working on the tank today or tomarrow got injured doing sports :( i hate being injuring prone lol. ordering roachs soon. can't wait lol :)
 

midget

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:( parent said yes then no then yes and now its aboultley not to roachs, and i refuse to raise crix there a pita :( , but they don't have a problem with frut flies or anything eles. i went with the next best thing i plan on keeping s.elegans as they can be feed a staple of fruit flies for the most part. will keep this thread update don the atucal tank. pics tomarrow :)
 

Airedale

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At this point, my L williamsi are just eating fruit flies. I plan on getting some smaller roaches, but you could try a lot of different things. Look on Dendroboard. They have a lot of cultures for sale of small insects and feeders (fruit flies, springtails, bean beetles, rice flour beetles, isopods, etc) Plus, you can have fruit availible to your geckos. Do what you think is the best thing to do.
 

midget

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yea i know know the varties of food, diet plan was bean weilvels,springtails,fruit fly,phonex worms,isopods(rolly pollie),rice flour beatles and mabye firebrats
 

Airedale

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Looks like a plan. Only problem I see is that phoenix worms are a pain to culture (I tried once, and failed horribly) and can get pretty expensive after a while to buy and the firebrats need high heat and low humidity. Other than that, you're looking good for food. Good luck.
 

Douwe

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My Lygo's eat almost anything that fits in their mouth. regular flies or curly wing flies, fruit flies, bean beetles, springtails etc. But the things they like the most are all the little creatures i catch when i go with a net through the high grass. Don't ask me the names because it's all kind of bugs mixed together and they pick out the ones that make it to te top of the tank, the frogs hunt down the rest, it's the only time i see the frog's really hunt for food till all is gone, they never do that with the regular food. And sure the lygos are fond of everything sweet, i feed them babyfood twice a week and i have even seen them lick the nectar of some flowers.

Grts Douwe
 

midget

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ok thanks it just i feel they wouldn't be there best on a staple of fruit fly. i kept simlar size lizards and geckos on fruit flies as a staple and they were always looking for more even though they coudn't eat any more(seemed more like a filler then food ime) i'm ording 2 s.elegans in the next week or so.
also updates tonight
 
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