Any guesses on the morphs?

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krazycricket21

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Picture #1 Could this guy be an enigma?

Picture #2 I just recently bought a couple geckos and can't ID them.
The pair were sold to me as a.p.t.o.r.s but they have STRIPES. Doesn't that take away from the P for patternless?

Picture #3 Sold to me as an a.p.t.o.r.

Picture #4 I also have a very high tangerine leo that looks as bright as some of the sunglows, is this a possibility?

Picture #5 One of the funky jungle looking leo's that were sold to me as a.p.t.o.r. One eye is a partial eclipse and the other is all black with a little white pigment in it, kinda looks like smoke.
 

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acpart

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I don't see any signs that #1 is an enigma. It looks like a SHTCT.

Some people will call geckos with patterns APTORS but I agree with you that they should be patternless, or at least patternless at birth with a chance that they may develop some spotting. I'd call those a stripe and a reverse stripe.

I don't remember what #3 looks like and I can't look and type this message, so I'll do another post

It may be a very bright tang. If it's an albino and loses its spots it will be a sunglow. If it's not an albino it will be a very bright tang.


I guess the jungle's eyes may have an eclipse factor.

Aliza
 
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acpart

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I don't see how #3 could be an APTOR because it doesn't seem to be an albino, not to mention its banded tail and patterned back. I'd call it an abberrent because the tail is banded.

Aliza
 
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krazycricket21

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acpart said:
I don't see any signs that #1 is an enigma. It looks like a SHTCT.

Aliza
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What are the traits for an enigma?
Do you know of a good site that breaks the different morphs down?
What is a SHTCT? I could take a guess that part of it is Carrot tail.

Also, do Sunglows ever have spots on thier tails?

In your opinion was i ripped off? I spent $120 on the 5 'a.p.t.o.r.s' and $35 on the 'enigma'.

~Anna​
 
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Matt K

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Thier value is pretty much what you see in them. Personally it looks likea pretty neat group of lep.gecks, and if you paid 155 total for the group... that does not seem like too much to me.... $30 each or so? 3 or 4 of them are worth that if not a good bit more...IMO....
 
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krazycricket21

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AWESOME!
I have really needed a site like this!

That adult has two splotches, could it be a enigma het?
Sorry for all the questions, i have just started getting into these guys!
~A​
 
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Palor

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As far as I understand they can't be het for Enigma, a gecko is an Enigma or it is not. You picked up some nice Leos to start out with. I really like the Smoky one :)
 
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Malibu Barbie

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1. hypo - only SUPER hypo if all spots on the body goes away - no enigma and you cant be het enigma.
2. APTORS or plain albinos - you would have to breed to know for sure
3. no way - a normal jungle IMO - APTOR is albino - those markings are black
4. Thats a SHTCT and a patternless - A sunglow is again a albino version of the SH therefore no black and the spots on the tail is black.
 
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cat_named_noodles

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1.Hypo, possibly hypo Tang. And he's really skinny.
2.Both look like Reverse stripe Tremeprs. Only way to know if they are APTORs is to breed with a proven Eclipse/APTOR or RAPTOR, or to each other if they are a boy and girl. If you get RAPTOR babies, then you can say they are APTORs. However, I too am in agreement w/Aliza in that APTOR and RAPTOR are misleading terms. And they also look thin to me.
3.That's a Jungle. It may be het for albino and/or Eclipse so breed it to one of the "APTORS" you may already have- if you get Eclipse &/or RAPTOR babies, then it is a het, but definitely not an APTOR.
4.SHTCTB (looks baldy to me) and a Patternless. Sunglows are albinos and that's not an albino.
Most of those leos are either very very young, or pretty skinny.
 
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