High normal

[Griesi]

I just wanted to show some of my "high normal" leopardgeckos. They are F2 and great animals.
The E. m. afghanicus are way shorter than the normal leopardgeckos, while the E. m "montanus" (a western pakistan locality) are a little longer than the nominat form, but slender in their appeareance. The montanus also show a very different behaviour as they are very active during daytime, extremly curious and always watch me whatever I`m doing.
I`ll take more pictures the next days, when my broken camera is back on the track.

Montanus:

afghanicus vs. "RAPTOR"

afghanicus hatchlings:

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

Nice looking leos! You guys in Europe have done a much better job of keeping the various subspecies of leos separated than we have in the US. Here they've been all mixed together with no regard to locale. It's hard just to find a "normal" here at all, no less one that is a known subspecies. Amazing how light colored that Montanus is in the first pic!

 

[NathanSoto]

I agree this is truly AMAZING, i cant believe the size difference between the afghanicus and RAPTOR.

 

[Chewbecca]

Very NICE geckos!
Good job!

It's hard just to find a "normal" here at all, no less one that is a known subspecies. Amazing how light colored that Montanus is in the first pic!

I have 12 normal hatchlings, het for nothing!
So, they are NOT hard to come by in THIS house!:lol:

 

[GeckoTom]

Very NICE geckos!
Good job!





I have 12 normal hatchlings, het for nothing!
So, they are NOT hard to come by in THIS house!:lol:

So you are having a mix of several unsure species of geckos from unknown locations, inbred over several generations that have a pattern nearly as a E.m. wildform! Gratz! :crackup:

 

[Allee Toler]

I have an F2. She's almost 8 years old (May 2nd.)... I don't think normals are truly that hard to find with no hets. There's quite a few U.S. breeders now that are working with subs.

Gorgeous subs. I love them.

 

[GeckoGirl1990]

its nice to see pictures of HEALTHY normals! And its also very cool that they still show the differences between subspecies.
I have wondered about which subspecies my two females resemble the most (obviously they arent pure). Does anybody else think my smaller female could be part afghanicus? My good measurements of her total length are just barely over 7 in., while my other female (with the lavender bands) is a whopping 9.5 inches when she's at her straightest! These are the best size comparison shots I could get. I bought them as babies 7 years ago from...Petco :lol:

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

Afghanicus is starting to be worked with more and more here in the US. But the other subs are still quite hard to come by. And honestly, I'd have my doubts about most anything labeled as "pure" anything unless I collected it myself. Just because someone says that they have a "pure" F1 or F2 doesn't make it true.

@ Geckogirl...the subspecies have been mixed so much in the US that it's really pretty impossible to say.