Some Phelsuma hot shots

[quadi]

Hade some free time, so I decided to load up some pics of my Phelsuma. Hope you like them?!;-)

Maybe that arouses some more interest for Phelsuma species and not ever for those ugly Australians.:biggrin:

Phelsuma klemmeri

Phelsuma seippi

Phelsuma pasteuri

Phelsuma cepediana (young male)

Phelsuma serraticauda

Phelsuma quadriocellata quadriocellata

Phelsuma cepediana

Phelsuma borbonica mater

Phelsuma borbonica borbonica

Phelsuma borbonica mater

 

[jack29]

WOW Quadi!!! very nice collection of phelsuma!!! i like also your terrariums and your bromelias!!

 

[Sgvreptiles]

Very Nice indeed. Much better then thouse over priced, sleep all day, australian crap!

 

[Bob]

Very nice Phelsuma. I really like the Phelsuma serraticauda, I love their tail.

 

[Crandall Geckos]

Phelsuma

Very nice Phelsuma. I would like to see the cage set ups.

 

[boo pol]

I would like to see the cage set ups.

Me too

 

[kylehca]

the setups would be great to see

 

[phelsumatic]

Very nice gotta say that last pic doesnt look like a mater to me almost look's like agalegae or even barbonica barbonica.

 

[zohariels]

WOW! I absolutely love your serraticauda and cepediana, wicked collection! I love the bromeliad in the top pic, which kind is that one? I dont think I've ever seen that one for sale around here. Perhaps you could send me one with a couple geckos?:cheer:

 

[Jase]

Very nice gotta say that last pic doesnt look like a mater to me almost look's like agalegae or even barbonica barbonica.

Got to agree, this doesn't look like a typical borbonica mater, the head is the give away

Fantastic collection of photos and Phelsumas though :yahoo:

 

[jeroen de kruyk]

the mater on the last photo is Phelsuma borbonica mater for sure.
terra typica South East Coast. i have a male that looks just like it.
i really love those. i have a wildcaught animal.

borbonica is my favorite specie for sure.
but my Vanheygeni is also very lovely

 

[phelsumatic]

I cant say for sure I know there is alot of variability within the barbonica group.Just an observation still stunning animal and if it did in fact turn out to be agalegae lucky you.

 

[Jase]

Well Jeroen is the Borbonica master :king: I got my pair from him a couple of years ago

 

[phelsumatic]

Nobody is a master of anything knowledgeable yes master no.

 

[colinmelsom]

Jeroen what is the difinitive way of telling borbonica and mater apart,there is indeed agreat deal of variation.Thanks

 

[jeroen de kruyk]

I cant say for sure I know there is alot of variability within the barbonica group.Just an observation still stunning animal and if it did in fact turn out to be agalegae lucky you.

what is the reason that you would say it is a borbonica agalega??

i say it's borbonica mater. because of its colour. base colour. the head colour doesn't say anything. i agree there is a lot of variability within the borbonica group. but i have had more of those with a yellow/light brown headcolour. but they where all borbonica mater. also here in europe people are going crazy when you have a borbonica variaty that is rare. they pay a lot for them. i know a few:

-Phelsuma borbonica borbonica "St.Andre"
Phelsuma borbonica borbonica "St.Rosé"
Phelsuma borbonica borbonica "EastCoast"
-Phelsuma borbonica borbonica "Le Brulé"
Phelsuma borbonica mater "Original Line"
-Phelsuma borbonica mater "Basse Valle"
-Phelsuma borbonica mater "SouthEastCoast"

There are a few more. but have no idea how many more there are.

here are a few photo's of my mater with yellow head:

"Original Line"

what is the difinitive way of telling borbonica and mater apart

i guess you should begin with bor bor and with bor mater.
after you get to know them you just simply can say which is what.
it's is just something you just don't need to learn from someone else. make it yourself easy. by checking and checking.

i keep :

1.1 mater SouthEastCoast.
0.1 mater Basse Valle. Looking for a male.
1.1 borbonica St.Andre
1.2 borbonica Le Brulé

I got my pair from him a couple of years ago

how is my old pair doing ?? by the way, you have Basse Vallé

these two are also borbonica mater. this is the SouthEastCoast. male and female. male is WC

 

[colinmelsom]

O.K. I have both subspecies and I can see a few differences but I am unsure whether this is due to the mater being wild caught and the borbonica being captive bred.

My mater are much redder and bluer but this is due to them being wild caught.They do have a bluish ring around the eye.The red on the back is very reticulated.

My borbonica are green and brick red and I put this down to them being captive bred.They are slightly smaller than the mater but perhaps they are not fully grown.There seems to be a line of green between the back and the sides.

Then to throw a spanner in the works I have some captive bred mater that are very similar to the boronica.

Jeroen can you get your captive bred borbonica{either subspecies} with a really red colour?If so how do you do it?

Thanks Colin

 

[phelsumatic]

My point exactly I am trying as we speak to get together photo's of mine as well as anyone who will let me use there's so we can get a more comprehensive method of determining which species is what.I personally love barbonica but I do not want to cross any of them and I have a few myself that I am skeptical about.Please do not take me asking as a rude way of thinking I know more it is the exact opposite I want to know more to prevent any unwanted crossing.
Thank's

 

[Jase]

how is my old pair doing ?? by the way, you have Basse Vallé

Hi Jeroen, they are doing well they are in very good health. They are still not together but I hope they will go together in the spring and I get some eggs. Interesting to know mine are Basse Vallé, thank you

 

[jeroen de kruyk]

O.K. I have both subspecies and I can see a few differences but I am unsure whether this is due to the mater being wild caught and the borbonica being captive bred.

My mater are much redder and bluer but this is due to them being wild caught.They do have a bluish ring around the eye.The red on the back is very reticulated.

My borbonica are green and brick red and I put this down to them being captive bred.They are slightly smaller than the mater but perhaps they are not fully grown.There seems to be a line of green between the back and the sides.

Then to throw a spanner in the works I have some captive bred mater that are very similar to the boronica.

Jeroen can you get your captive bred borbonica{either subspecies} with a really red colour?If so how do you do it?

Thanks Colin

To awnser your question:

Keep them outside for a few weeks. only during sunlight.
i have another borbonica photo for you. this is the borbonica borbonica St.Rose, but could be the LeBrulé.