I think that should be saved for another thread H. Just trying to enjoy some pictures between keepers and photographers, not trying to make accusations, teach moral standards, or guilt trip anybody, just looking for some information on these beautiful animals. I think we all agree that the wild populations should be cherished and left alone! An argument for or against hybridization could go for pages, I believe the issue with that in the other thread was that it was claiming to be something that it truly was not, and most likely does not and perhaps will not ever exist. People will just not let things slide in this community that tarnish our reputations by stereotyping us as cheats, liars, or even smugglers/biodiversity threateners.