Gecko with swollen glad please help!

Roxyrox

Roxyrox

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Pauli - I have a 30x12x12 long for the one with the bump. I'm going to change that and make it vertical when I get the scratch for it. In the meantime, he has a Reptisun 10.0 24" bulb. No heat source, my room stays the approrpiate temp all the time. The Reptisun was used on a bearded dragon for about 2 months before this, and that was 4 months ago, so the output is probably very low. I'm going to replace it with a spare Reptiglo 10.0soon. It goes through the metal mesh screen top.

None of my supplements have D3. They have all the UV they need.

FYI the other one has a 13 watt 5.0 compact bulb. He can go as near or as far from it as he pleases. The little one pretty much cannot hide from the UV, but I've seen him sleep 3" from it and yesterday when I took him out he ran about as fast as that bearded dragon, then jumped about 3 different times in a matter of a few seconds. Extremely active.


Can your uroplatus turn his head?
 
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paulibabes

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Roxyrox said:
Pauli - I have a 30x12x12 long for the one with the bump. I'm going to change that and make it vertical when I get the scratch for it. In the meantime, he has a Reptisun 10.0 24" bulb. No heat source, my room stays the approrpiate temp all the time. The Reptisun was used on a bearded dragon for about 2 months before this, and that was 4 months ago, so the output is probably very low. I'm going to replace it with a spare Reptiglo 10.0soon. It goes through the metal mesh screen top.

None of my supplements have D3. They have all the UV they need.

FYI the other one has a 13 watt 5.0 compact bulb. He can go as near or as far from it as he pleases. The little one pretty much cannot hide from the UV, but I've seen him sleep 3" from it and yesterday when I took him out he ran about as fast as that bearded dragon, then jumped about 3 different times in a matter of a few seconds. Extremely active.


Can your uroplatus turn his head?
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Hello again roxy, thanks for the in put, I'm going to him a 26w because I'm sticking some live plants and moss in his setup this time(before I just used old cork bark etc) I think he'll like the change but still I'm putting plenty of dull wood in tehre as I know he likes that because he blends in easily with it.

I've got him here now, he seems very lively and is climbing fine again. Still won't eat mind...

I'll let you know how the vets goes tomorrow, my poor wallet!
 
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paulibabes

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Ok so took him to the vet today, I was lucky enough to get there as the parents were going to a cremation... He's been diagnosed with an absess and he's got MBD :( FFS! I thought this may be the case, on the other hand though they wanted to keep him there and none of their setups would of been any good to him and they charge for leaving him there, I've got the uv light etc on order and in the mean time I've moved closure so it's exposed to plenty of sunlight. Will I hope the Uv equipment arrives very soon, and that the sun light at least slows down the MBD for now... An e-ray would of been an extra £50! Which I can't afford at all :(. Please everyone wish him luck, he's normaly sch a tough gecko and I've gotten so attached to him over the two years I've had him, he did the whole hanging upside down bit where he curls his little fis into his chest, jumps from hand to hand, feeds from tweezers. The sunlight must of made all the difference...:sad:

I was about to get around to getting him a mate as well... God this sucks!
 
olivine

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Hiya. I'd be careful about trying to expose the littlun to sunlight; firstly, glass filters out UVB, so simply placing the enclosure in near a window etc won't actually be of any benefit (even if the window's open, there's obviously the glass of the viv to consider). Secondly, even in dank, cold, drizzly Morecambe we're experiencing sunny intervals, so placing the viv in direct sunlight near a window could send the temperature soaring to dangerous levels.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for you.
 
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paulibabes

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olivine said:
Hiya. I'd be careful about trying to expose the littlun to sunlight; firstly, glass filters out UVB, so simply placing the enclosure in near a window etc won't actually be of any benefit (even if the window's open, there's obviously the glass of the viv to consider). Secondly, even in dank, cold, drizzly Morecambe we're experiencing sunny intervals, so placing the viv in direct sunlight near a window could send the temperature soaring to dangerous levels.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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Thanks for the input:), it's just for now, I've got the uv bits on the way on order. He must of been getting some sunlight/uvb before which must of worked, as I've had him 2+ years like that with no problems at all. The weathers' not been too great here atm anyway. If it gets quite hot then I can always close the blinds a bit.

I hope he'll be ok, it just wouldn't be right if he died :(.
 
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paulibabes

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olivine said:
Hiya. I'd be careful about trying to expose the littlun to sunlight; firstly, glass filters out UVB, so simply placing the enclosure in near a window etc won't actually be of any benefit (even if the window's open, there's obviously the glass of the viv to consider). Secondly, even in dank, cold, drizzly Morecambe we're experiencing sunny intervals, so placing the viv in direct sunlight near a window could send the temperature soaring to dangerous levels.

Still keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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Olivine, thanks for the support, seriously I'm sick with worry.

I haven't slept at all! It's so wrong, I felt like I was doing so well with him and have been so proud of him.:(
 
Roxyrox

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I know u just ordered your uvb, but i'd seriously consider the 13 watt. No heat, same amount of UV. If u want heat, put a heat pad at the very bottom of the tank so the substrate heats - it's good for plant roots and will raise humidity by accelerating the wicking effect, while a higher watt bulb will just dry things up.

For god sakes take him away from that sunlight ur gonna kill him. UVB doesn't go through glass. There are well documented studies on this. All you're doing is providing a heat source at this point. He wont die between now and when you get that light. I know you wanna try everything u can and you're proud of your gecko, but out of all the species of reptile you could do that to, this one has got to be the worst.
 
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paulibabes

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Roxyrox said:
I know u just ordered your uvb, but i'd seriously consider the 13 watt. No heat, same amount of UV. If u want heat, put a heat pad at the very bottom of the tank so the substrate heats - it's good for plant roots and will raise humidity by accelerating the wicking effect, while a higher watt bulb will just dry things up.

For god sakes take him away from that sunlight ur gonna kill him. UVB doesn't go through glass. There are well documented studies on this. All you're doing is providing a heat source at this point. He wont die between now and when you get that light. I know you wanna try everything u can and you're proud of your gecko, but out of all the species of reptile you could do that to, this one has got to be the worst.
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Well how come he was doing so well until the sun light was blocked out?

I've kept geckos before, leos, pictus, day geckos etc.

All lived and thrived fine in my care.

Surely, if the sunlight was to kill him then he would already b dead? About 2 years ago... The UV light has been dispatched so should arrive early next week.

But desptie my experience with other species, I believe your's is better with these, I'll move him away from the sunlight, as you suggested.

I've been keeping a keen eye on his temps and they're spot on 82-84F.

As said the bulb is now on the way, deaxone suggested I get the 26w over the 13w, he did take a cricket today after tempting him a bit so things seem to be looking up a bit. After the buld arrives I'll check the temps again and see if there is any major changes, l'll order the 13w buld as a back up ready.

Please don't lecture me on "out of all the reptile species in the world" talk. As stated, I've been keeping him based on a care sheet and research that I read over two years ago, he has been fine until he was in shade. I am not deliberately trying to cut any corners or anything like that, I want him to have the best life he can!

I value your opinion and insight greatly, no one is perfect, we all make mistakes and I clearly read misguiding information that is probably now out dated and has been replaced with what I'm being informed of now. Believe me if I could go back in time and start again I would! I'd save every penny for a time machine to go back :(.
 
Roxyrox

Roxyrox

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paulibabes said:
Well how come he was doing so well until the sun light was blocked out?

I've kept geckos before, leos, pictus, day geckos etc.

All lived and thrived fine in my care.

Surely, if the sunlight was to kill him then he would already b dead? About 2 years ago... The UV light has been dispatched so should arrive early next week.

But desptie my experience with other species, I believe your's is better with these, I'll move him away from the sunlight, as you suggested.

I've been keeping a keen eye on his temps and they're spot on 82-84F.

As said the bulb is now on the way, deaxone suggested I get the 26w over the 13w, he did take a cricket today after tempting him a bit so things seem to be looking up a bit. After the buld arrives I'll check the temps again and see if there is any major changes, l'll order the 13w buld as a back up ready.

Please don't lecture me on "out of all the reptile species in the world" talk. As stated, I've been keeping him based on a care sheet and research that I read over two years ago, he has been fine until he was in shade. I am not deliberately trying to cut any corners or anything like that, I want him to have the best life he can!

I value your opinion and insight greatly, no one is perfect, we all make mistakes and I clearly read misguiding information that is probably now out dated and has been replaced with what I'm being informed of now. Believe me if I could go back in time and start again I would! I'd save every penny for a time machine to go back :(.
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K, whatever dude. None of those geckos listed are anywhere near the same as a uroplatus. They all are found in the high temp environments, especially the Leos as they come from the deserts in Turkey.

Sunlight is the worst way to provide UVB to a reptile in a glass / plexiglass cage cause...well...it doesn't provide any, hence your MBD. It's also the WORST way to provide heat, because you CANNOT control climate change throughout the day. All it takes is one hour of a beating sun and BAM, dead uro. I don't really care about your emotions about this, but I do care about that animal and we'd all like to see it pull through. We're just trying to help you.
 
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paulibabes

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Roxyrox said:
K, whatever dude. None of those geckos listed are anywhere near the same as a uroplatus. They all are found in the high temp environments, especially the Leos as they come from the deserts in Turkey.

Sunlight is the worst way to provide UVB to a reptile in a glass / plexiglass cage cause...well...it doesn't provide any, hence your MBD. It's also the WORST way to provide heat, because you CANNOT control climate change throughout the day. All it takes is one hour of a beating sun and BAM, dead uro. I don't really care about your emotions about this, but I do care about that animal and we'd all like to see it pull through. We're just trying to help you.
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K so you've never made mistakes before at all?

I've had him for over two years, no problems you keep on missing this part... And then when I went away for a week BAM he's sick. I was keeping his D3 up and doing everything right to the best of my knowledge at the time.

As I also said, I've been keeping a keen eye on his temps, they are fine! I don't see why you're acting as if I'm being ignorant, when I said I'll move him, which I have! I don't see any reason for you to start being grumpy fart, when in fact I'm doing everything I can do to help my uroplatus! And believe me, no one cares more about him than I do!

I hope I don't have to waste anymore time going off topic with you, if you want to really help then great, if you want to help and stir then no thanks, I've got the same and better advice elsewhere from people with a much better attitude than you're showning.
 
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paulibabes

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Roxyrox said:
K, whatever dude. None of those geckos listed are anywhere near the same as a uroplatus. They all are found in the high temp environments, especially the Leos as they come from the deserts in Turkey.

Sunlight is the worst way to provide UVB to a reptile in a glass / plexiglass cage cause...well...it doesn't provide any, hence your MBD. It's also the WORST way to provide heat, because you CANNOT control climate change throughout the day. All it takes is one hour of a beating sun and BAM, dead uro. I don't really care about your emotions about this, but I do care about that animal and we'd all like to see it pull through. We're just trying to help you.
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Wow you're a complete newbie to geckos full stop, I mean you were daft enough to get a uroplatus as your first gecko!..

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...rowth-neck-mossy-leaf-tail-not-sure-what.html

Please do me a favour, don't post on my threads anymore! You wouldn't even try to get the lump seen at by a vet on your gecko!
 
Graham_s

Graham_s

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Please keep your differences of opinions to PMs and keep this thread civil. You've been warned.
The last 2 posts were unnecessary and have been removed.
 
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paulibabes

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Graham_s said:
Please keep your differences of opinions to PMs and keep this thread civil. You've been warned.
The last 2 posts were unnecessary and have been removed.
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I really don't see why my last two post were so bad as opposed to his last one, I did not swear, say anything offensive or state any insults. But hey you've also just posted a not so needed post...

All I asked for was a bit of straight forward insight and help, but I get this, thanks!
 
Graham_s

Graham_s

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paulibabes said:
I really don't see why my last two post were so bad as opposed to his last one, I did not swear, say anything offensive or state any insults. But hey you've also just posted a not so needed post...

All I asked for was a bit of straight forward insight and help, but I get this, thanks!
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paulibabes said:
Again, get a grip kido! Go and troll somewhere else!
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As far as I can see, there was some element of constructive criticism/attempt at helping you in those posts previous to yours, so I have not deleted them. You have continued to fuel the fire with these posts I have quoted.
This is your final warning. I am being fairly generous as I am in a good mood, but if you continue to do this you will get an infraction and the thread will be locked.
 
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paulibabes

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Graham_s said:
As far as I can see, there was some element of constructive criticism/attempt at helping you in those posts previous to yours, so I have not deleted them. You have continued to fuel the fire with these posts I have quoted.
This is your final warning. I am being fairly generous as I am in a good mood, but if you continue to do this you will get an infraction and the thread will be locked.
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"I am being fairly generous as I am in a good mood"

Wow you are powerful... ...Not!

I've got the help I needed from the helpful people. I am greatful to them, but you to be honest are a another waste of time. I'm taking every step I can at helping my gecko, he's making a great recovery already.

So again thank you to olivine and to the rest of you for your help, we need more people like you in the world, but no thanks to mod abuser (graham) who feels like he's god atm and no thanks to the kido (roxy).

You may close the thread now, you know whatever turns you on and all that jazz:loser:
 
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