Uroplatus?

Brand0n

New member
are there any uroplatus breeders on this forum? im interested in pretty muc all uroplatus the stanics being my favorite but i just cant seem to find any good care information or anybody that consistantly breeds/sells them...
thanks in advanced!
 

pakinjak

Member
You may already know this, but they are definitely not for the novice keeper. Make sure you have all your ducks in a row before you get any, or you'll likely be very disappointed.

That being said, it's not that common to see them for sale CB. Just keep searching and you'll find some folks who keep them. Ask them, and they may be able to point you in the right direction.
 

Lordoftheswarms

New member
Use the search function on this site, and you will get lots of hits, or you can go through the Uroplatus forum. I did that for about 80% of the forums on this site. It is a tedious process, but I now have about 4300 pictures, all the caresheets for all the geckos, and a pretty thorough understanding of the hobby.

Attend a Reptile Show and get them from breeders there.
 

rhacoboy

New member
As stated above, these are not a beginner species. Even the experienced breeder has trouble keeping and breeding Uroplatus.
I just purchased Uroplatus after a total of 10 years keeping all different lizard species and 5 years breeding.
Thanks,
-Armen
 

Brand0n

New member
cool more info than i had expected! ive spent around 40 hours researching these little guys and i havent completely decided on them yet, satanics are my favorite but i dont think i can keep them going through college...
armen, how long have you had youre uroplatus (uroplati?)?
 

EriksReptiles

New member
Hello,

I completely agree with everyone.

I am not sure what your current collection/experience consist of, however I would defiantly not suggest Uroplatus for a novice keeper. I have been keeping and breeding reptiles for 14 years and had leaf-tails for over half of that time. They can be fragile without the right precautions and WC animals can be tough.

Also leaf-tails are not very cheap. Most of the CB animals I sell are about $200+ depending on species and coloration.

I would suggest starting out with leopard geckos, crested geckos, etc and building your way up to more fragile species. Its all about research and experience.

Thanks Erik
 

rhacoboy

New member
Hello,

I completely agree with everyone.

I am not sure what your current collection/experience consist of, however I would defiantly not suggest Uroplatus for a novice keeper. I have been keeping and breeding reptiles for 14 years and had leaf-tails for over half of that time. They can be fragile without the right precautions and WC animals can be tough.

Also leaf-tails are not very cheap. Most of the CB animals I sell are about $200+ depending on species and coloration.

I would suggest starting out with leopard geckos, crested geckos, etc and building your way up to more fragile species. Its all about research and experience.

Thanks Erik


I completely agree with everything Erik said. Leaf Tails are very difficult to keep and breed and I would definitely not start out with them. I understand you have a crested gecko, and before moving over to the Uroplatus I would build on your crested gecko collection and continue researching the Uroplatus. As stated, CBB animals are $200 plus and consistently rising, and a newbie purchasing WC animals is not a good idea, much less an experienced breeder purchasing WC Uroplatus.

Good luck,
-Armen
 

Melmo

New member
Hm, everyone is saying they are not easy animals. I'd like to know; what makes them so hard to keep for a novice?
 

Brand0n

New member
have you tried to keep youre humidity steady? how long did it take you to get used to it to the point where you could nail it dead on every time? i may be new to this forum but im not new to keeping pets, and while i may be young i dont claim to be an expert either infact i recognize i have to wait until AFTER i finish college before i attempt such a difficult specied as much as i love them. but anyways try keepin humidty steady, constant circulation, and a nice steady high temp for these guys for a month even! i can garuntee unless you live in a VERY high humidity area its going to be quite hard! even in the nice wet Oregon its hard! ive tried it already lolz
 

Phantasy

New member
You definitely don't want 'steady high temperatures' for this genus, just to let you know. Waiting for a stable living situation is a good idea. I was in the same boat you're in, now just graduating college, and finally looking for some of these wonderful geckos. The wait won't seem bearable or even worth it to you until you realize that it is in the best interest of the animals in question. Good luck with the wait, and I'm sure you'll have your geckos one day.

Cheers,
-Matt
 

EriksReptiles

New member
Humidity can be tough to keep stable as well as temps. That is why in my reptile rooms I keep air-conditioners and heaters that are separate from the rest of the house to keep the temps accordingly. For humidity I have everything on a pre-programmed timer that mists automatically.

I live in Colorado, so I have the exact opposite of a high humidity climate and stable temperatures. However with misting and the swamp coolers I can keep it just in the magical range. I have kept them at my place in Seattle, Washington too, however I honestly feel Colorado is easier to keep them because I can fully monitor the humidity and create any level I want.

Melmo: These geckos do not tolerate large temp/humidity changes that a leopard gecko or crested gecko would. They rarely drink out of water bowls and rely on misting water for hydration. They dehydrate easily and therefore misting is so crucial. They can be touchy. While you might be able to keep them alive with larger temp swings and humidity changes, normally only stable conditions will result in success with keeping the species alive long term and breeding success.

Thanks Erik
 

rhacoboy

New member
Humidity can be tough to keep stable as well as temps. That is why in my reptile rooms I keep air-conditioners and heaters that are separate from the rest of the house to keep the temps accordingly. For humidity I have everything on a pre-programmed timer that mists automatically.

I live in Colorado, so I have the exact opposite of a high humidity climate and stable temperatures. However with misting and the swamp coolers I can keep it just in the magical range. I have kept them at my place in Seattle, Washington too, however I honestly feel Colorado is easier to keep them because I can fully monitor the humidity and create any level I want.

Melmo: These geckos do not tolerate large temp/humidity changes that a leopard gecko or crested gecko would. They rarely drink out of water bowls and rely on misting water for hydration. They dehydrate easily and therefore misting is so crucial. They can be touchy. While you might be able to keep them alive with larger temp swings and humidity changes, normally only stable conditions will result in success with keeping the species alive long term and breeding success.
Thanks Erik



I fully second that. A large increase in temperatures which would be a period of uncomfortable conditions for several other species, could be fatal for Uroplatus. Misting is a must and is cruical for the survival of your Uroplatus. With Uroplatus, there is not much room for mistakes, because each mistake, in most cases, is fatal.
Also, because not much is known about them, there is no exact care guidelines. With many species its "If you do this, this will happen", but with Uroplatus its not like that. Breeders and keepers are still learning.

I hope all of this will be taken into great consideration when planning your purchase of any of these species, and please understand the commitment you're making when doing so.
Thanks,
-Armen
 

uroplatus99

New member
OK... so to aid in your learning about these awesome geckos, find out the area that they are from (start using google, the search here, and look through the GGA's archived listserve)... and use this link to review the average high and low temps as well as rain fall. This will help you understand the habitat needs of these geckos...

World Weather Information Service - Madagascar

For instance, the U. pietschmanni's were recorded to be found in the providence of Taomansina...

Though this doesn't really get you into the actual locale of the geckos, it will give you an idea of how little change from month to month there is in their natural habitat.
 

j_izzle8930

New member
but anyways try keepin humidty steady, constant circulation, and a nice steady high temp for these guys for a month even! i can garuntee unless you live in a VERY high humidity area its going to be quite hard! even in the nice wet Oregon its hard! ive tried it already lolz

Most Uroplatus need to be kept at cool temps. As far as the humidity thing I mist mine once a day and get lazy somedays and forget to do anything with them. They are all perfectly healthy and breeding. If you do your research and buy CB animals from a reliable source you shouldnt have too hard of a time with them. Once settled in they seem to be a somewhat hardy species. Im not saying if you can keep a crestie alive you should buy them but if you do your research first go for it. Unless you plan on filling a room with them I dont see why waiting until after college is neccessary. Dont spill beer on them or forget to feed them and they might look sexy in a dorm room.
 

Phantasy

New member
Except that every semester you have to pack them and unpack them, and if you can't travel with them you need to have a reliable person to take care of them. Also a lot of noise and having lights on until all hours of the night would stress them out. And that many colleges don't allow reptiles to be kept as pets. There are like 1,000 really good reasons why waiting until after college is a good idea.

Cheers,
-Matt
 

Calfirecap

New member
BrandOn,

Your decision to wait to work with Uroplatus until after you finish college is a wise one. By working with easier species you can learn from your success. Keeping Uroplatus is also not cheap. In addition to the initial output for the animal there are all the other things you have to purchase or make in order to put together and maintain proper accomadations. When I was in college I could have never pulled it off.

Lawrence
 

luevelvet

New member
OK... so to aid in your learning about these awesome geckos, find out the area that they are from (start using google, the search here, and look through the GGA's archived listserve)... and use this link to review the average high and low temps as well as rain fall. This will help you understand the habitat needs of these geckos...

World Weather Information Service - Madagascar

For instance, the U. pietschmanni's were recorded to be found in the providence of Taomansina...

Though this doesn't really get you into the actual locale of the geckos, it will give you an idea of how little change from month to month there is in their natural habitat.


I put together some data last year to illustrate the seasonal changes in climate for four distinct areas of Madagascar.

Climate Graphs - Madagascar


Cheers!

Luis
 
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