Riverside Reptiles
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Yes...that's what importers do in general, sell wc animals.
Gekko smithi, The Green Eyed Gecko
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Yes...that's what importers do in general, sell wc animals.
billewicz
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Yes, of coarse. Wild Caught are their stock & trade. Actually my connection is a part of a breeding collective as well and Tokay are sure to start showing up as farmed animals in the next couple of years. But for now, all the Tokay are WC. Remember that really big Tokay are worth a fortune, like several thousand Dollars for a 500+ gram animal. So there is speculation that a lot of folks over there are raising up Tokay.
The Indo guys deal mainly in Indonesian fauna so G. nataphandi, for example, might not come through them since they are mainly from the Mekong River valley of Thailand and probably Vietnam.
But I'm checking with them to see what is possible.
The Indo guys deal mainly in Indonesian fauna so G. nataphandi, for example, might not come through them since they are mainly from the Mekong River valley of Thailand and probably Vietnam.
But I'm checking with them to see what is possible.
To be honest, 500g tokays I do not believe in any more. I do have had (and still have one) 250g and plus males and these are very large and still obese.
ISo far, I have only seen one tokay, which was significantly larger than these and this still was well below 400g.
Best regards
Ingo
P.S.: Mekong river valley or Vietnam for nutaphandi? Sounds strange, I guess, you mix them up with something else. So far these have only been found in the Kanchanaburi province in western Thailand and there is no hint, that they may extend eastwards till the Mekong or Vietnam..
ISo far, I have only seen one tokay, which was significantly larger than these and this still was well below 400g.
Best regards
Ingo
P.S.: Mekong river valley or Vietnam for nutaphandi? Sounds strange, I guess, you mix them up with something else. So far these have only been found in the Kanchanaburi province in western Thailand and there is no hint, that they may extend eastwards till the Mekong or Vietnam..
Logie Bear
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well this guy is 452 grm, usually injected with silicon... :-x
Jeezus, that poor tokay! That photo is just sad on so many levels.
billewicz
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Well I did get 10 pair in earlier this year because I could not find any Gekko smithi in the US accept for a couple of males. One of which I've had for a couple of years. Yeah, I've been looking to establish a breeding group for almost 3 years with standing orders with a couple of importers with no luck. (And no I was not willing to go through the BS, time and expense to import from Germany. Actually I tried a couple of times but the 'deals' fell through.)
Finally one Indo importer got a group in which I purchased his 23 animals. I noticed a couple of others offered just after that by a couple of other vendors. Safe to say they all came in at the same time as a one-shot deal since I've not seen them offered since.
I had early eggs from two pair which have just started to hatch in the last day.:banana: So I'm happy to say we're on our way to establishing this breeding group.:biggrin:
Riverside Reptiles
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Congrats on the new hatchlings. Very cute.
XoVictoryXo
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super cute!!
billewicz
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congrats! Very cool. They would be awesome to have at some point
So, maybe next year I'll have enough captive bred pairs, (F1), that I'll be able to get sell extras or F2 offspring. If you like Tokay calls, having Gekko smithi calling in between is really cool.
In our house one can hear Tokay, G smithi, Leachies, toads, tree frogs and crickets calling, clucking, barking and chirping at any one time. Especially now during our spring and the Indo breeding season just before it rains! :biggrin:
cassicat4
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Beautiful geckos! I just recently saw these posted on another forum and can't get over how stunning they are. Congrats!
If/when you have any hatchlings for sale, I think I'll be contacting you.
If/when you have any hatchlings for sale, I think I'll be contacting you.
billewicz
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If/when you have any hatchlings for sale, I think I'll be contacting you.
Thanks, it would be my pleasure. I'm thinking late fall before I have a good idea what we will hold back and what we will release from the whole group.
MC gecko
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If/when you have any hatchlings for sale, I think I'll be contacting you.
No problem, Cassi ! It will be a pleasure to do business with you again, I can contact you when it will be available, if you want
MC gecko
Marauderhex
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I think she was talking to MC, since they are both from Canada. But I'll happily add one of your smithii this summer/fall if you have any to release.
billewicz
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Yeah so it seems, but there is a company that will ship reptiles from the US to Canada. Like most importing deals however, it makes more sense to split the costs over several reptiles and not just a couple, but it is doable.
Marauderhex
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I'm hoping you have extra males, since I want to get one that will call.
billewicz
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That's funny. I tried to get a group of these guys for almost 3 years. I happened onto a single adult male last year in a 'collection' sale and I got him.
That's all we heard was him calling and calling and calling!