Leopard gecko MBD?
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Yoshi'smom
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He does have a nice fat tail which is a good sign. It does appear that in one of the photos that the front limbs are slightly turned in, but this just could be the angle of the picture or just the way he put down his front foot in the picture.
Does he walk ok, eat well, otherwise active?
Does he walk ok, eat well, otherwise active?
Vee-vee
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He is eatin 1-3 crickets per day (he eats 3 crickets every 3 day or 1 or more crickets every day) so he is eating well. I think he walks ok, he has no problem with walking and he is less active than my second gecko, but at night I often see him out of his hide. But I think he has something with his front left leg
Yoshi'smom
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I don't know if it's anything to worry about. All of my leopard geckos stand with their front feet facing in a bit (I just went in a cleaned and fed them all). Your geckos front feet do seem to be facing inward more than what appears to be normal. My husbandry seems to be on par and I dust and gutload my feeders, so I don't think that you have anything too severe to worry about as long as you're dusting and gutloading your feeders. MBD is believed to be reversible if caught early enough. If you're really worried then I would suggest a visit to your vet just in case.
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Yoshi'smom
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Yes, MBD is a serious problem that will cause other very serious complications down the road. I think that he may be slightly showing the first signs of MBD. I believe that if caught early enough, MBD is reversible. But also remember that MBD can be caused from too much calcium as well.
How often are you dusting feeders? If he's eating daily, you only need to dust 2-3 times max every week. Leo's can overdose on D3 (which can cause MBD as well). Make sure the calcium in the tank is pure calcium without D3 and the calcium that you dust your feeders with has D3. Also, make sure both are Phosphorus free as Phosphorus interrupts calcium absorption.
How often are you dusting feeders? If he's eating daily, you only need to dust 2-3 times max every week. Leo's can overdose on D3 (which can cause MBD as well). Make sure the calcium in the tank is pure calcium without D3 and the calcium that you dust your feeders with has D3. Also, make sure both are Phosphorus free as Phosphorus interrupts calcium absorption.
Angey
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Yes, I agree, however MBD is not reversable. If treated properly you can stop it from progressing and strengthen bones but you can not reverse any damage it has already done.
I've never heard or seen any case of D3 overdose, honestly. I've never come across typical symptoms of such and I think that what people tend to believe to be a D3 overdose, is usually just way too much calcium.
His front legs look fine in the recent picture, I'm in the process of nursing a juvenile with early stages of MBD (just a bend in the front legs at this point), and I've been using calcium with d3 to dust all of the crickets, and she has improved significantly.
You look like you're doing pretty good I'd keep up the methods you're currently using
His front legs look fine in the recent picture, I'm in the process of nursing a juvenile with early stages of MBD (just a bend in the front legs at this point), and I've been using calcium with d3 to dust all of the crickets, and she has improved significantly.
You look like you're doing pretty good I'd keep up the methods you're currently using
Yoshi'smom
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Most recent picture looks better! His feet aren't facing in almost at all. Just offer the calcium without D3 in the tank (a little cap full should do) at all times and dust your feeders with the calcium with D3 about twice a week. Don't force it. He'll lick it up when he needs it. You may never see him lick it up but they do. I've caught all of my leopard geckos licking it up at least once. He should be ok if you continue to dust an offer calcium.
Saskia
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Well, actually you can, I have seen cases from friend´s animals and nearly not being able to move to going back to abslute normality, MBD is reversible
Angey
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The bones can become strong again yes and they can live a happy normal life but any deformed bones caused by MDB can not go back to normal.
Saskia
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Well, I actually SAW it happen, I am almost sure I can get pictures of the animal )Before and after), the poor thing had the rear legs awefully positioned, couldn´t walk, and after treatment she went back to normal, she has no signs of ever having been sick :shock: she belongs to a neighbor of mine and I keep close contact with him, it is not something I heard about, but something I saw in person, I thaught that animal was going to die, I must say, the legs were not twisted or bent or anything, just positioned oddly
Yoshi'smom
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I'm definitely interested in seeing pictures if you can find them Saskia! That's great!
Saskia
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I found pictures of another case, but it is not a leo, it was a Chamaleo calyptratus also with MBD, closely dead and then fully recovered, I can´t find the pictures of the gecko 
maybe they were in my previous mobile phone which got stolen, I have sooooo many animal pictures that sometimes it´s difficult to find the ones I am looking for
maybe they were in my previous mobile phone which got stolen, I have sooooo many animal pictures that sometimes it´s difficult to find the ones I am looking for
Yoshi'smom
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Wow! That's a crazy picture. Poor guy looks young too. I hope somehow he made it....