Phelsuma borbonica co-op

mkschaefer

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Hello,

I acquired a trio of Phelsuma borbonica (agalegae) mater last year. I had been looking for borbonica for quite some time and was very pleased that Kurt Lantz (The Rep Room... your source for fine reptiles.) made a male and some females available. I also acquired Phelsuma cepediana from Preston and Jason last year to join the cepediana co-op. My experience with that has prompted me to propose starting a borbonica co-op or getting in contact with others who are working cooperatively.
To my knowledge, borbonica keepers are not working together in a concerted effort to increase the number of available males and preserve the locales of the borbonica presently in captivity. I say "to my knowledge" because I am simply assuming this based on my experience and do not want to insult those who may be spearheading such an effort.
I am fond of the borbonica I have but find that the male prefers one female over another. I am presently keeping a pair together and am keeping the odd female out separately. Both females produced last year, but the male and preferred female really harass her. I am considering rotating the male, but am also looking for another male (easy, right? hahahaha).
I am open to working together to locate, breed, purchase, trade animals.
If you are keeping borbonica and interested in working together, please contact me and let me know:

1. Which species you are working with
2. How many you have (including babies or eggs incubating)
3. Feel free to post pictures on this thread, though I know they are accessible through the search option on this forum

Perhaps this appears to be a silly idea, but I'd love to move forward or hear,
"Hey guy, we are already doing this. Where have you been?"

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Lone female:
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Sgvreptiles

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Im more then willing to do this. I love borbonica and have been working on maken a few males this year. I currently have 8 babys here,and have sold off 4(hatched 12 so far). And Still have 2 more eggs. Ive tried a variety of incubation methods. So we will see what happens. I have 1 individual that was incubated hot temps during day, cool nights and is bigger and brighter then my other ones. Even though it is younger. I will have to get some pictures of my juvies. Im looking to do some bloodtrades later this year as I would like to have atleast 1 more pair.
 

mkschaefer

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Jeff, I'm going to check the archives and our past conversations. I will create a google document, unless someone has a better idea, that we can all access and make changes to. Check your email and make any suggestions/ changes you think you should.
 

daggekko

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Matt and Jeff, I am very interested in working with you guys on this. Keep me in the loop. I am about to start increasing day length and hopefully getting some eggs. I am still working at getting better pictures of my girls(I've posted some good shots of the male). My male looks very similar to Matt's male. That last female you posted though, she looks different. One of my females was colored up more today and resembles the male to a great degree.

Jeff, How hot/cool did you incubate the eggs at? Sounds like you do have a little guy on your hands:D
 

Sgvreptiles

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Nope. They were in a deli cup glued to a sanservia. I had a paper towl in there that I would wet every few days for humidity. But it stayed dry most of them time.
 

daggekko

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That is awesome Jeff!!!! Thanks for sharing. I bet you do have a little boy on your hands with the colors on that last one! I can't wait to start getting babies from mine.
 

mkschaefer

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Very nice! Did you hear any vocalizations? I hear them between my adults as or accompanying other agonistic behaviors.
 

Sgvreptiles

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My adults bicker all the time. She gets a few nicks every once in awhile. But nothing major. The hatchlings haven't made noise that I have heard. This individual was always near the bottem of the tank, and had a few skin tears on him so I decided to move him. Sometimes siblings will get along, other times they wont.
 

daggekko

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So today I managed to get some decent photos of my two female P borbonica. The one female was showing off her colors very nicely, and the other was dark and dull.






I just watched her chase the dull one around squabbling. Then for a second there I thought she was going to go after the male too! I am pretty sure she is gravid. I will definately be setting up another enclosure for that lone female. Maybe I will try swapping them out like you've been doing!
 

Sgvreptiles

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Nice pics adam. I would definitely separate them. It wont be long before they have a bad squabble and end up loosing alot of flesh. I had the same thing happen with my cepediana. Dominate female and a less dominate female. Always bickering. One day come home to find alot of missing skin on both.
 
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