Loooong incubation

miguel camacho!

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So, my U. aff henkeli have been pretty productive in the first year. For my latest pair of eggs to hatch, they were laid the morning of Aug 30, 2011. First hatchling was just spotted in the incubator moments ago from this clutch (~7pm, Feb 28, 2012). If you do the calculation, that's a whopping 182 days (5 months, 29 days).

I find it interesting that prior to my hiatus from keeping, my incubation durations were centered around 90 days. Granted I did not keep U. aff henkeli in the past, but I hatched quite a few U. phantasticus and U. henkeli in my former days, and hatched a few clutches of U. ebenaui before the beginning of my hiatus in 2007.

I thought 3 months was the 'normal' incubation time. I know it's difficult for some people to get dips in temps down into the lower 60s, but I have been able to achieve temps around 60F through much of this winter. I also kept my room cooled to around 68-70F during much of the summer, with lows around 65F overnight.

I'm interested to hear from others that are experiencing incubation significantly over 3 months time. I know some individuals don't spot the eggs at the point they're laid, and I don't have any problem with that! I was lucky to notice females laying in most of the clutches I gathered last year. But for those of you that have incubation durations roughly along these lines (4-6 months), what species are you working with? At which temperatures do you keep adults? the eggs? Which incubation medium/method do you use?

Figured I'd also share a useful link to calculate incubation, rather than doing it by hand.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=08&d1=30&y1=2011&m2=02&d2=28&y2=2012

And, well, people probably want pics, too. I'm amazed it took me this long, but after hatching out many Uroplatus in the past, this is the first time I was vigilant enough to catch a leaftail hatching as it first began to exit the egg. Turns out, after all, there is not a sudden explosion where the gecko just flies out of the egg. I might be able to get some video up of it as it proceeded to emerge from the egg completely.

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pakinjak

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I'm cooking at 74-75 daytime with a night drop to 68-70 and have had four henkeli hatch so far at 113, 114, 122, 123 days so far. Interestingly to me at least is that the first two were males and the last two females. I have four more henkeli and four fimbriatus incubating, so I'll have more data for you around July. I'm not much over four months but thought I'd share anyway. Traditional incubation method for me, wet perlite, bottle caps with dry perlite in it, though the fimbs are cooking in wet hatchrite and bottle caps filled with dry perlite.

Depending on what species you're talking about I'm keeping adults at different temps. The henks and fimbs are at 74-75 daytime with a drop into the high 60's at night. The sameiti are around 77 daytime and high sixties at night, and the sikorae are about 74 daytime with a drop into the low to mid sixties at night. I still feel green when it comes to managing multiple pairs, but it's been working pretty good so far.
 

D.B.Johnson

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I have a phantasticus egg going as we speak that was laid on Sept. 26th. Using that handy link, I found that it has now been 156 days since it was laid. This one is the only egg I have right now. My room has been cooler than normal this year too, dropping to around 60-64 at night more often than not, sometimes even a little below the 60 mark a couple of times. I do warm the egg during the day to 72-74. The egg appears normal, not molding or smelling up the joint. I haven't got a clue if it's going to hatch, so far it's been much longer than any I've had before...we'll see. I think the longest ones I've had hatch were maybe around 120 days give or take.
 

miguel camacho!

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I had another thread that only got one response in the incubation section of the forums. User mat.si mentioned that U. phantasticus can sometimes take around 6 months. I am assuming, but not sure, that is a report of his own results.
 

mat.si

Super Moderator
Hi Mike!
Saw this by chance.
Yes, those phantasticus incubation times came from my own 5 years experience working with them. Eggs incubated at over 20 C (20 to 23, 24C) hatched in about three months (I would have to check my old notes for exact times and temperatures), but more or less all hatchlings seemed to have been pretty weak and usually died within the first few weeks.
Eggs incubated strictly bellow 20 C (usually at 15 to 19 C) hatched in about 6 months and all those babies were strong and survived into adulthood.

Regards, Matjaz
 
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David

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also with Moramanga "ebenaui", clutches laid and incubated through summer time end up to dead embryo, only one clutch laid at autumn and incubated through winter gave me 2 perfect babies after 120-150days (exact deposit date unknown)

not so much results with those anyway
 

sakasuvaki

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Those pictures are absolutely gorgeous. Thank you for sharing. I rarely get on GU but when I saw this picture I had to comment. :) Good information too.

What kind of flash / lighting did you use? The colors are so crisp.
 

miguel camacho!

New member
I use a homemade mock-macro twin lite that I power with a 430 exII. Kinda hard to explain, but if you look up DIY macro twin lite on google or youtube, you might get a good idea of what I made.

Edit: sorry, it's a modification I made to the DIY ring light. Basically, you insert your external flash into a modified dome light fixture like many people use on their enclosures.
 
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