Two new rescues and a big ol' sweetie

cricket4u

cricket4u

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SamanthaLovely said:
Well they definitely seemed like they were going to vomit. No signs of anything yet though. But they try to spit it up in me. They kind of push it out of their mouths and to looks like "foaming at the mouth." I'm sure it's just spit and the syrupy medicine but I'd still like to see if it's normal/Give an update.
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So how are they doing with the metronidazole?
 
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They hate it alot but they're taking it alright. The vet said I could mix it with a little oxbow and they seem less disgusted with it that way. They're taking it better now, I think they know it's good for them :lol:
 
cricket4u

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SamanthaLovely said:
They hate it alot but they're taking it alright. The vet said I could mix it with a little oxbow and they seem less disgusted with it that way. They're taking it better now, I think they know it's good for them :lol:
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Of course, it delicious :lol: Any changes in bowel movements or behavior? Probably not ha, I think it's only been 2 or 3 days? Also can you take a picture of them both so that I can get an idea of their body condition at this point.
 
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cricket4u said:
Of course, it delicious :lol: Any changes in bowel movements or behavior? Probably not ha, I think it's only been 2 or 3 days? Also can you take a picture of them both so that I can get an idea of their body condition at this point.
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I'll take some and get them up soon.
Just had another possible breakthrough, Sundrops second fecal came back negative. Which baffles me because of the worms I saw. So I called the Vet Office and asked if I could send a picture of the worms I saw. The secretary asked if they looked like little rice shaped things and they did. She suspects tapeworms. So I'm sending off an email with the pictures for them to take a look at.

I'm also researching when they shed parts so I can get an idea of when I should be checking extra carefully for another sample. I'm looking for more info on tapeworms in leos but not too much is coming up. I'll keep up the search.
 
cricket4u

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SamanthaLovely said:
I'll take some and get them up soon.
Just had another possible breakthrough, Sundrops second fecal came back negative. Which baffles me because of the worms I saw. So I called the Vet Office and asked if I could send a picture of the worms I saw. The secretary asked if they looked like little rice shaped things and they did. She suspects tapeworms. So I'm sending off an email with the pictures for them to take a look at.

I'm also researching when they shed parts so I can get an idea of when I should be checking extra carefully for another sample. I'm looking for more info on tapeworms in leos but not too much is coming up. I'll keep up the search.
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That is why one fecal test is barely enough. Some info that can help you understand.

Parasites
 
cricket4u

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It's not a straight foward matter.
Tapeworms that shed whole segments into the faeces instead of individual eggs will also rarely be detected using this fecal flotation test (they are actually easier to diagnose, however, because the segments are large and visibly obvious). Fragile parasites that are easily destroyed by most fecal floatation mediums will also fail to be detected using this testing procedure.

Fecal flotation for detecting parasite burdens in faeces.

Going bald yet?:)
 
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SamanthaLovely

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cricket4u said:
It's not a straight foward matter.
Tapeworms that shed whole segments into the faeces instead of individual eggs will also rarely be detected using this fecal flotation test (they are actually easier to diagnose, however, because the segments are large and visibly obvious). Fragile parasites that are easily destroyed by most fecal floatation mediums will also fail to be detected using this testing procedure.

Fecal flotation for detecting parasite burdens in faeces.

Going bald yet?:)
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Well using my magical deduction powers I'm going to assume that there's a fair chance that it is tapeworm because 3 fecals in a row came back negative with the worms/segments fecal in between. So if I know there had to be something because I witnessed it and because the fecals didn't pick it up and Sundrops fecals came back negative. So if it's not a tapeworm it's pretty coincidental. Hopefully the vet will get back to me soon.

I'm really liking this vet. They called me for the past three days to make sure the medicine was going well and no one was allergic to it or anything. And when I call the secretaries can generally answer my questions or have them answered while I wait. Not to mention the zoo is 2 buildings away so when I have to go drop fecal samples I have an excuse to go to the zoo :lol:
 
cricket4u

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I have signed in 3 times with the intention of asking you 2 questions and I end up distracted with something else and forget. :lol: Now you see why I carry a notepad at all times.

1. If financially feasible ask the vet if a one time dose of B-complex will be beneficial for them. It can be quite helpful under their condition.

2. Is the vet herself examining the fecal herself or is she also sending it out to a pathologist? It can make a huge difference in identifying the problem. Most vets send it to the pathologist for a confirmation. They are more trained due to the fact this is what they do at all times. It can help save you money from so many fecals and you can get a more definate answer as well.
 
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cricket4u said:
I have signed in 3 times with the intention of asking you 2 questions and I end up distracted with something else and forget. :lol: Now you see why I carry a notepad at all times.

1. If financially feasible ask the vet if a one time dose of B-complex will be beneficial for them. It can be quite helpful under their condition.

2. Is the vet herself examaning the fecal herself or is she also sending it out to a pathologist? It can make a huge difference in identifying the problem. Most vets send it to the pathologist for a confirmation. They are more trained due to the fact this is what they do at all times. It can help save you money from so many fecals and you can get a more definate answer as well.
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1. I will definately ask her about it.
2. They talk about sending them out to the lab so I am assuming they don't do them in-house. Also she tell me when she talks to the reptile specialists (not sure who they are) about things. Like she's taken Kalahari's Xray to them for their opinion.

By the way that fecal flotation article was phenomenal. Unfortunately I just put Homemade Macaroni and cheese in the oven and I may have lost my appetite :shock:

I am assuming that if they do confirm it being a tapeworm and she's treated, I'm going to have a close encounter with one of those nasties while cleaning her tank. I shudder a the though. If that's what ends up happening I'll probably do a crazy obssesive sanitization.

Now are reptilian tapeworms contagious? Or I suppose what I'm getting at is what is the likelihood of Cherish having a tapeworm aswell? I read alot that it's quite contagious in cats because they lick their paws etc after using the cat box. Would it be correct to assume it could be possible for them both/all to have one because they eat their shed and they could have stepped in the infected feces/sand in the petstore?
 
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