Leopard Gecko: good care check, general ?s

Kreuniclus

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First off, i am a new member here but i am on an Animal Care course so i am not new to this website. I've always used it as reference in school.

Last August i got a Leopard Gecko. Back then i knew a lot about them as my Animal Care team also has a pet Leopard Gecko. I named mine Link.

Just before christmas i learned that Leopard Geckos need wet moss to help them shed. I thought 'Well, why didn't the shop tell me that!'

I'm just wondering, because of this, if i am missing anythng else. Keep in mind, Link has NEVER looked or been ill as far as i know. He is FINE.

I recently got him a new vivarium with a heat mat. The old one had a heat rock and i know how dangerous they are to Geckos. I keep him on a diet of Mealworms now because he refuses to eat crickets. I always keep his water bowl topped up. I only found a shop that sold calcium powder kust before christmas so that's when i started feeding him food with calcium powder. I always keep a dish in there full of calcium powder which i rub the food in and put it infront of his hide.

Also, i have NO clue as to what the temperature is. I had a thermometer in to old one and it usually read 68 - 71. I rarely checked it. I thought that was too cold for geckos but he's been fine with those temperatures.

As i said before, i only found out that moss helped them shed just before christmas. I got an old mealworm box, cut a hole in the side (which i first objected to because i thought it might be sharp and cut him but then found out he couldn't get in) and filled it up with moss. He NEVER uses it. EVER. One day i got home from school and caught him just starting to shed. I put him in his moss box but he climbed out and went straight back in his hide and continued shedding. I tried turning it upside down, putting the moss in his hide and a few other things but whatever i tried, it failed. I don't use the moss anymore and he seems to be coping fine without it.

I heard something about 'humidity' which i have no clue as to what it is or ho to measure it.

His substrate is and has always been repti-carpet. I don't know anything about my his age as i bought him off of a man who was low on money and thought it was best to sell him. (He sold it to the pet shop who re-sold him. He had a great deal!)

I don't think he likes me. I've heard stories on this very website of people just putting their hand in the vivarium and their gecko rushing out to greet them. I tried that. He ignored me. When i have my hand in there and he's out i do sometimes stroke him like i would my cat which he never used to like but i think he's warming up to it now. Though, i think he's greatful for the new vivarium. The old one was so small.

Ever since i got him a new vivarium, about 2 weeks ago, he has been trying to get out through the glass, which he never did before. He has also been looking at me, which he never did.

I got the new viv for 3 reasons. The third one was because it was so small, the second one was because he had a heat rock in there. The main reason was because my cat, a very fat cat, who is very heavy, was sitting on the mesh on top. It looked like it was about to give in and collapse. This one is made of wood and glass.

I guessed my gecko was used to the light being turned on and off, and this new one 'didn't need it' so i got the light box from the old tank and just put it on the glass on top, which takes up most of the top so the cat can't sit on it. I do, though, have a stool infront of it (which i must keep there as i have nowhere else to put it) that the cat sits on and can look at him perfectly on. I presume that is alright as they have never scared or acted aggressive to eachother. But the other day my cat did get on top of the viv (not all of the space is taken up) and did try to put her paw in a few times. My gecko just stared at the paw. I did stop my cat as it looke like she wa about to fall off but the gecko really didn't seem to care at all.

I think that's it. That's all i know. Is there anything i'm missing? Am i taking good care of him as i am now? Keep in mind that he has never looked ill or shown any symptoms or anything. I just really don't want him becoming ill or something. I REALLY don't. I would hate that.


Sorry if i wrote too much...
 

Kreuniclus

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Hi, Crickets4U! I've seen your posts on this forum before and i'm happy to get a reply from you. I'm apparently not allowed to post any URLs. But i will when i can. I have uploaded them to this website.

I will check through the caresheet now.
 

lisaowens

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if you will go to photobucket and load the pics on it then you can post pics on here if you don't have an account with photobucket you will have to create one :)
 

Tokayy

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Your temperature is quite cold. I would try to raise that up a fair amount. They are desert repitles so keep that in mind. Their days are warmer then their nights. **Desert nights get pretty cold** I would also provide a couple of hides. A hide on the hot side where the UTH should be as well as a hide on the cool side. Furthermore a shed hut should be in order. You can use wet paper towel or even moss. This will allow your gecko to have an easier time shedding when that time comes. Biggest concern is your heat. They need belly heat to digest their food.
 

Kreuniclus

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Your temperature is quite cold. I would try to raise that up a fair amount. They are desert repitles so keep that in mind. Their days are warmer then their nights. **Desert nights get pretty cold** I would also provide a couple of hides. A hide on the hot side where the UTH should be as well as a hide on the cool side. Furthermore a shed hut should be in order. You can use wet paper towel or even moss. This will allow your gecko to have an easier time shedding when that time comes. Biggest concern is your heat. They need belly heat to digest their food.

I have a under-substrate heat mat with my new vivarium and he often goes and sits on top of it so that is ok. I will find a thermometer to measure the heat with because i don't know the heat in the new one, the old one's temperature was pretty low. As i (think) i said before, i do have a moist hide for him to go into filled with moss but he just wouldn't go in it. Now that it's empty he has started exploring it. The moist hide is just next to the under-substrate heat mat so that can be a warmer hide for him. Maybe i should switch those around? So the moss won't dry as quick and he can be warmer as he sleeps. His colours are getting darker, indicating he is about to shed so i will put some moss in when his old skin comes loose.

Even if i did get a thermometer and the heat was still to low (which i'm pretty sure it's not anymore), HOW do i boost the temperature? There's no dial or anything. All i have is a light box which isn't even supposed to be there (which, i presume, boosts the heat) and an under-substrate heat mat that emenates heat when i turn it on, and i was told to keep it on all the time, even at night.
 

Kreuniclus

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Also, i just noticed the gallery button next to the UK flag thing to the top right of my posts, I think the pictures are in there. If it fails then i will try the Photobucket thing.

I haven't finished reading the gecko care guide Cricket4u posted yet but i know most of it already anyway. I will continue reading, though.
 

cricket4u

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Hi,

By looking at your gecko I am pretty sure your home is not as cold as you mentioned. If you never checked the temps in his tank, I doubt you bothered to find out what temps your parents have set the home thermostat to.:biggrin: However, I am glad to hear you are reading the caresheet and hope you make all changes as soon as possible.:)
 

Kreuniclus

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This: Proves that i can't remember properly. I retrieved my old thermometer from my old viv and it turned out i had the temp set to Centigrade! I dunno what the old temperature was...

I just put it in my new viv and the reading for the warmer end where his under-substrate heat mat is MAX: 93.9 MIN: 91.0 Isn't that a bit hot? I thought the max temperature could only be 90F
The reading for the cooler end is MAX: 86.0 MIN: 84.4 That's better... Right?
 

cricket4u

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This: Proves that i can't remember properly. I retrieved my old thermometer from my old viv and it turned out i had the temp set to Centigrade! I dunno what the old temperature was...

I just put it in my new viv and the reading for the warmer end where his under-substrate heat mat is MAX: 93.9 MIN: 91.0 Isn't that a bit hot? I thought the max temperature could only be 90F
The reading for the cooler end is MAX: 86.0 MIN: 84.4 That's better... Right?

90-95 is belly heat only (it means you measure the floor above the heat mat). Air temp should not go above 77 on the cool side/ no higher than 85 at the warmest end. If the air temp is higher than 85 within 2 feet of space, chances are the cool side will be too hot.
 

Kreuniclus

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Note that in my pictures HNI 0093 is my new tank, HNI 0063 is the top half of my old tank (you can see the top of the hide here), HNI 0095 is of Link now and P1140986 is of Link in November last year. I only uploaded it because i liked it.
 

Kreuniclus

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I measured the temperatures on the floor. My new vivarium is too narrow to have 2 foot on it but i will check the temperature again, holding as high up in the vivarium as possible.
 

cricket4u

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Note that in my pictures HNI 0093 is my new tank, HNI 0063 is the top half of my old tank (you can see the top of the hide here), HNI 0095 is of Link now and P1140986 is of Link in November last year. I only uploaded it because i liked it.

Are you sure you are 15 years old?:biggrin: I am just kidding. You have nice parents I see. I like the enclosure and I am glad you are sharing it with everyone, but what type of lighting are you using?
 

Kreuniclus

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Air temp:
Cool end:
MAX: 85.7
MIN: 80.6
Warm end:
MAX: 86.0
MIN: 85.1

I measured these at the highest it could go, which is around 18cm off the ground.

Not looking too good... I wonder how to turn the heat mat temperature down... If it is possible...
 

Kreuniclus

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The old viv was from Exo-Terra and i'm using the light box from that one on this one. I don't think i'm supposed to but i'm sure Link would feel strange without lights. I do, too!
 

cricket4u

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The old viv was from Exo-Terra and i'm using the light box from that one on this one. I don't think i'm supposed to but i'm sure Link would feel strange without lights. I do, too!

As long it is on a timer and he has enough hides in different temp zones. It would be best to place the light towards the warm end only.
 

cricket4u

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Air temp:
Cool end:
MAX: 85.7
MIN: 80.6
Warm end:
MAX: 86.0
MIN: 85.1

I measured these at the highest it could go, which is around 18cm off the ground.

Not looking too good... I wonder how to turn the heat mat temperature down... If it is possible...

This is from the caresheet. You need something at least similiar to control the heating.
Buy a thermostat to control your UTH and to prevent accidental overheating. These are good ones: BAH-1000DC Reptile Thermostat New Model - Incredibly Reliable Digital Chip for Accurate Temperature Control, Amazon.com: Hydrofarm MTPRTC Digital Thermostat For Heat Mats: Patio, Lawn & Garden, Hydrofarm - Hydrofarm MTPRTC Digital Temperature Controller for Heat Mat, Herpstat 1 Proportional Thermostat - Temperature Control - The Bean Farm or http://beanfarm.com/product_info.php...oducts_id=5984.
 

Kreuniclus

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I have moved his usual hide to the warm end and his moss to the cooler end. I have moved the light box to the warm end. I will look for a thermostat as i cannot pay in $!
 

Kreuniclus

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I went to have a look at the heat mat and noticed there was another layer of glass underneith the one i had to on. I must've thought it would've been too thick. I put it lower hoping the temperature drops slightly but i doubt they will that much. I will check now.
 
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