Rhacodactylus Ciliatus sick? Please help!

ctnjoker

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I have a female and a male Crestie in the same vivarium, 18x18x24. The two geckos very similar in size and age. (1.5 years or so) It's fully planted, humidity around 60-70%, temperature 70-78F daytime, 68-72F nighttime. I have a dimmed red light on them at night, it's on only slightly (25% power or so) so that I can view them easily at night. We currently both spray the tank and use a Zoo-Med fogger to keep humidity up. Both use spring water. We had been using one feeding dish, full of new CGD every day. There has been a slight problem with fruit flies in the enclosure. (Maybe 6-8 or so total, can't really keep count, but a small amount)

Recently, we aquired a Croton plant (codiaeum variegatum pictum). We planted it about 2 days ago. Today, we took the geckos out to feed them some crickets, and the male was very lethargic. He had what looks like some stuck shed on his snout, has trouble gripping, and seems uncoordinated. He was extremely disinterested in the crickets and seemed to "freak out" whenever I touched him. He was also just laying on the ground of the enclosure when I took him out. His eyes are also a tad bloodshot, not bright red but enough that I noticed.

I read online that the generic "Croton" plant could be very dangerous, as the sap is slightly toxic. I immediately took the plant out and replaced it with a plant I know to be safe. However, many sites list the specific "codiaeum variegatum pictum" to be safe for reptiles.

I also read that it could be a calcium deficiency, or a stuck shed. I find the latter to be improbable, as the humidity is 60% or higher.

So for now, I took that plant out, put two food bowls full of CGD, sprinkled on a small amount of calcium powder, and am just waiting. I thought that maybe the female was dominating the food dish, and maybe he is so sluggish because he isn't getting a proper diet. Or that somehow he injested some toxic sap from the plant, which may or may not be toxic.

The female is showing no signs of stress or difference in behavior. She grips just fine, and looks a bit more well-fed than the male.

Also to note; when I took the male out of the tank, I found some feces where he had been laying on the ground. The feces looked like normal crestie feces to me. No discoloration or difference in firmness.

Anybody have any guesses or advice?
 

DestinyMichelle

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Do you have the correct lighting on them. These guys are nocturnal and need just heat during the day and not that much. No higher than 85 degrees. Since they are nocturnal mostly the problem is they are not in natural sunlight and does not get the UVA light to create the calcium they need to keep their bones strong and not let them get porous as they grow. This condition is called MBD (metabolic bone disease). No heat is usually necessary at night. They need to cool off at 60 to 70 degrees at night. Supplement his diet with calcium in his food and on his crickets. Do this now!!! He can live up to 10 yrs. You can also put a milk lid in his enclosure with calcium in it(repti cal)... he will eat it.
 

thehotchik1000

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I actually wouldn't keep a crestie at 85.f. I consider anything above 80.f stressful. 85.f would get into the danger zone. Mine do quite well at room temps summer the highest it gets is 78.f.
Did you remeber to wash the plant off? Did you by chance check to see if the growers used any fertilizers, or insecticides? He could have been accidentally poisoned by licking water droplets off the leaves.
Also how old is your cgd and is it the repashy or a different brand?


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ctnjoker

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I've been keeping cresties for about 4 years now, so rest assured the temperatue is all correct. He recieves 10 hours of daylight a day, and the "heat light" is only so I can see him at night. There's a dimmer on it so that it doesn't give of any heat, just lights enough for me to see.

I did wash the plant and as far as I know, it was pesticide free.

I will try to put some calcium in there, sounds like a good idea!
 

lauraleellbp

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How's your crestie now?

It sounds to me like he may just be in shed and that's it- it's pretty common for animals to behave differently during stressful times like shedding...
 

ctnjoker

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You'd be right; he was just in shed. I'd never seen him act like that during a shed before! Interesting stuff.

Thanks for the help everybody! He is doing just fine now. =)
 

Aimless

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I am curious why you would choose to keep a subadult pair together? aren't you concerned about the female breeding too young, or did she grow really fast and is already at the proper weight for healthy breeding?
 
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