Is it melanistic morph?
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My guess is no. It is likely just showing it's dark phase. But the only way to know for sure is to breed it and see if you can reproduce the trait.
billewicz
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Do you know were this animal came from? If you know it came from China instead of Indonesia, it has all the right markings for a "Rock Tokay" which is most likely a different sub-species that dwells in between rock ledges in a small province in China. They are able to flatten out unlike Gekko, gecko.
glittery
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This tokay i get from my country. I take it about 3 week already. She can eat and i think not stress anymore. But the color still same.
billewicz
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:biggrin:Cool. And very nice.
Since the genetics are anyone's guess, we call these fancy or aberrant Tokay.
If the background color is dark gray, than one day you may find it 'fire-up' to a light blue with orange dots. This has been the case with my Tokay from Vietnam.
If the background color is green, then it could be het for patternless green, but I do not have any from Vietnam to prove this out. This is a hunch based on what I've seen in Indonesian Tokay.
Enjoy!:biggrin:
Since the genetics are anyone's guess, we call these fancy or aberrant Tokay.
If the background color is dark gray, than one day you may find it 'fire-up' to a light blue with orange dots. This has been the case with my Tokay from Vietnam.
If the background color is green, then it could be het for patternless green, but I do not have any from Vietnam to prove this out. This is a hunch based on what I've seen in Indonesian Tokay.
Enjoy!:biggrin:
glittery
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Wow. I hope this tokay is same like your comment. Tks you so much. i will patient wait until she Fire-up
billewicz
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Really not that unusual? Then please tell me where I can buy 3 or 4 because I've only been able to acquire one male here in the US in two years!
Marauderhex
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I'd also love to hear of a good source for some smithii. Love to get one of those giants.
billewicz
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oke:Yeah, so you get my 'chastising' you about them being fairly common.oke:I have a male and I'd love to build a breeding group, even a female or two would be a good start. The only ones seem to be in Europe and I haven't put the effort in to funding and securing the purchase.
Jon Boone has had a male now and again but I've not bought a second one without a female to go with it.
Same story for the 'Rock Tokay'. We'll see.:roll:
Marauderhex
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Apparently, my "gecko guy", Nick Esposito has a connection for some CB individuals. They might be some of Boone's old stock. I contacted him today about them since he is heading to White Plains next weekend and I am not. Always good to have multiple feelers out for more rare species.
billewicz
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Cool! I have a pair of CB Cuban Knight's that I got from Nick a couple of years ago that are doing well. And yes, he does have Jon Boone stock more often than not at the shows.
I really want to get a group going so we can eventually have availability to folks like we're doing with some of the Tokay morphs.
Thanks,
Michael
I really want to get a group going so we can eventually have availability to folks like we're doing with some of the Tokay morphs.
Thanks,
Michael
glittery
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I have a male and I'd love to build a breeding group, even a female or two would be a good start. The only ones seem to be in Europe and I haven't put the effort in to funding and securing the purchase.
Jon Boone has had a male now and again but I've not bought a second one without a female to go with it.
Same story for the 'Rock Tokay'. We'll see.:roll:
Now i just get same male in my country. So i have a pair of them. Is same color and also black color.
billewicz
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Yeah, I know. I'm hoping not to have to do the Trans-Atlantic shuffle through Jon/Hamm, or whomever. But it just may come down to that.:scratchhead:
billewicz
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Well your girl is showing all the typical color markings of a normal Tokay. This is obvious in the side detail. She is showing a dark, or stressed look but this might change soon enough.
Also, if this is a fresh wild caught animal, wait until it sheds a couple of times. I get them in looking quite dark & dull but they brighten up after a couple of sheds.
Also, if this is a fresh wild caught animal, wait until it sheds a couple of times. I get them in looking quite dark & dull but they brighten up after a couple of sheds.
glittery
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Yes. I also think this is a normal but get stress. Now i still wait she change skin. Will update new pic for you soon.
Tks you.
I have to agree. Strange, on the first pics, her proportions, markings and ewven the Y on the head looked very smithii like.
Grossmann described a similar specimen sometimes ago.
From the last pics it looks like a tokay. I a, beginning to ask myself, if this could be a hybrid.
Would be very interesting to see offspring from that animal
Grossmann described a similar specimen sometimes ago.
From the last pics it looks like a tokay. I a, beginning to ask myself, if this could be a hybrid.
Would be very interesting to see offspring from that animal