First Tokay

[Cor8et]

Any good experienced info needed, whether its in here or another site like youtube.

Seem`s to be calm when transferring him but he`s not getting me that way lol... looks a bit thin, maybe just over 1/2in wide below shoulders, around 7/8in long .... looks to have very small white circle and dots on his skin..previously bad shed ? ( not parasites )

I`v got him in a Exo Terra 18/12/12in with coco fiber/ plenty to climb about, water dish, heat mat on the side glass ( can get cool in this house at times ) UVB bulb ( if needed ?) and a couple of bark hides on the floor.

Was out a run today and clocked a reptile shop, the rest is history.
appreciated guy`s

I`ll post images when i reach the acquired limit

 

[Marauderhex]

Check out Gekko | including Tokay, Golden, White Lined, etc for general info and you can search for specific questions you may have. I can tell you this; that enclosure is way too small for a tokay. They need lots of vertical space to climb, hide, hunt, and generally live. Consider buying up a 55 gallon aquarium and converting it into a vertical standing, front opening enclosure.

 

[Cor8et]

Check out Gekko | including Tokay, Golden, White Lined, etc for general info and you can search for specific questions you may have. I can tell you this; that enclosure is way too small for a tokay. They need lots of vertical space to climb, hide, hunt, and generally live. Consider buying up a 55 gallon aquarium and converting it into a vertical standing, front opening enclosure.

I`ll check that out Marauderhex

I got the Tokay unexpectedly, its just a temp home he`s in just now.

Thank`s for helping

 

[Cor8et]

I got the Tokay unexpectedly, this is just a temp set-up for now, he`s still pretty small.

Can`t upload the original photo, say`s its to big so this is the best i can do just now mate




Thank`s for your help, appreciated

 

[Marauderhex]

It'll do, I just wanted to make sure that you know you have to upgrade before he becomes an adult.

 

[XoVictoryXo]

Hes really pretty, congrats on your new pet! Good luck with him!
Since you got him from a pet store it may be best to take him to an experienced herp vet to give him a check up and a fecal test to make sure there are no internal parasites. Apparently most pet stores only carry Wild Caught Tokays and fail to do any follow up regarding potential health issues. (very disheartening)

 

[Cor8et]

Hes really pretty, congrats on your new pet! Good luck with him!
Since you got him from a pet store it may be best to take him to an experienced herp vet to give him a check up and a fecal test to make sure there are no internal parasites. Apparently most pet stores only carry Wild Caught Tokays and fail to do any follow up regarding potential health issues. (very disheartening)

Thank you XoVictoryXo

I never knew that, i`ll get it done just incase, i`ll phone up the guy who sold it and ask for more detail`s

On this image you can see him more clearly and the color.. wow

 

[billewicz]

Any good experienced info needed, ... or another site like youtube.
...previously bad shed ?
UVB bulb ( if needed ?) and a couple of bark hides on the floor.

Hello and welcome to the Tokay, and other Gekko, forum.

Yes, I'm sure your Tokay is a wild caught import which sell for about $25 retail. A captive bred Tokay would be closer to $100 so please take a fresh fecal to the vet for lab work.

Ummmm, I've seen more misinformation on YouTube than I care to rant about. The biggest one I've seem is the hides on the floor forcing the Tokay to the ground. This will kill them faster than the parasites from stress. Their normal world is on a vertical surface, 24/7/365. A Tokay on the ground is a sick or dead one.

So, lean the cork bark slabs up against the sides of the enclosure. Even better, lean a piece of slate and then lean the cork an inch or two off of that to create a nice vertical hide between the two. Key word here is VERTICAL!

I use UV 2.0 lighting to keep my Tokay happy and healthy. My Tokay will come out in the early morning and early evening which does allow for some exposure. Also mist them at least two or thee times a day. They will only drink from a bowl once they get used to their new home. Say 6 months or so.

Bad sheds are a combination of being too dry and really poor nutrition. One last thing to help you out. This forum is full of great information for new Tokay owners regarding set-up, food, sexing, health, morphs, etc. Feel free to search through out to get yourself up to speed.

Good luck and all the best,

Michael's Tokay Hoard @ www.billewicz.com

 

[Cor8et]

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Good morning Michael, thank you for your reply.


I`v since found out that he is a she lol. and captive bread. I`v removed the hides too and realized i don`t need care sheets or u-tube when there is a wonderful site called geckos unlimited who have fantastic members like yourself who are more than willing to share their knowledge to help our little friends in need.

The images below show her knew set-up, this is still only a temp home as i plan to buy a five foot tall vivairum like i`v got my JCP. The set-up i managed to pick up for £50 yesterday ( not sure how many $ that is ) anyways, it was really cheep for what you see and you can`t see the water fountain/heat mat/stat. She`s behind the leaves top right, i can see the tip of her tail, you might need to zoom in ? The tank is 18in x 18in x 18in.

I`v got a moon bulb at the back, sun bulb and UVB at the front . Temps at hot end are in the 80`s and 70`s lower down. The humidity is sitting at 54 just now.

When you say "My Tokay will come out in the early morning and early evening which does allow for some exposure" my question is, can UVB penetrate glass ?

What diet ratio do you use ? I`v got crickets,**** roaches, morio worms & wax worms ( i`v got a few leo`s ) Do i just use the same ratio as my Leo`s ? in that order.

What is their bite like ?

Any feedback is much appreciated

Corbet

Edit: What do you think here Michael, getting mold on my deco, not sure if this will harm the wee fella ?

 

[billewicz]

Thank you for your kind words.

Tokay food needs to move to be eaten. Most worms are rarely taken, if at all. Try them in a dish up against the glass near the back. Gut loaded and dusted crickets and roaches, fast moving ones work best. I prefer Rusty Reds, Blatta laterals over Dubia roaches for their movement.

Most of your cage furniture is OK for Leaf Tail or Day Gecko, but not so much for Tokay. The twisty vine and grape wood can be used for filler, but really they live on walls, vertical tree trunks and hide in between layers of bark. Think of the hides you put on the ground for Leos and stand them up vertically against the glass or slate or the background wall.



Tokay come from tropical forests along the equator. Hot and dripping wet in the winter months and hotter in the summer. The trick is to have good ventilation to dry out the enclosure and substrate in between heavy mistings. You can look at Indonesian weather now and again to see what they have. (Bandung Weather Forecast and Conditions - weather.com)

I think you said you had a heat pad on the back, good. You may want a second one under the enclosure. This has two benefits, one, it will help dry out the substrate and two, the evaporating moisture will raise the humidity. If the 'mold' is green and growing because of the mistings and the light from above is feeding it, moss is fine. If the mold is black, white or some other true mold than remove the item and clean it well. Remember TROPICAL, not CAVE.

Glass filters UVB, so you can go with a stronger 5.0 or 10.0 bulb through the glass to do the trick. I use screen tops for ventilation and light penetration. (Many folks will say UVB is not required, but I've seen great results with ones that can get some exposure. They do not need much as it would be filtered through the forest canopy. but they are out enough to get some benefit.)

As for their bite. A quick warning nip is not too bad but they can latch on for 20 minutes or more, and that's a pain. Females tend to stay smaller but big males will take a big chunk of your hide.

Your girl should settle down easily. But all bets are off if she is egg laying, brooding or protecting her young.

Enjoy!

 

[Cor8et]

Ok, i think i`am about good to go :yahoo:

Thank you very much for your valuable time & information Michael, its much appreciated.

Your a gent and a scholar

 

[Cor8et]

Just a wee update on how she`s going.

Eating and pooping regular, she`s out and about when the sun goes down and the best part, she ain't scared when i watch her moving around all over the tank, even when she`s eating. She kinda give a peering stare then focuses back to her food.

She likes Cricket`s, Roaches and Locust, not keen on Morio worms or Wax worms so far. I`v not tried any other insect`s yet.

Her color is way brighter as you`l see in the images below.

All in all, i think she`s settling in nice, not the nervous, jumpy Gecko that i had a few weeks ago.

I`v not heard her making any calling noises or is that only for the males ?

 

[billewicz]

Very nice.

Once they figure out you are not going to 'eat' them, they are not so jumpy. Only males call, when they are in the mood, or when it's about to rain. (Breeding trigger.)

Females will bark and squawk at you as a warming.

Good luck and enjoy,

Michael