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Helping your sick gecko...(READ THIS FIRST)
When posting questions here please remember that if you fear that your leopard gecko is sick,
the best step to take is to get them to a vet who can visually and physically examine and diagnose your problem(s).

There is a wide variety of experience level of members on a forum like this and not all of the advice that you get is valid.

Please do not make the mistake of using this forum as an alternative to seeking proper medical treatment for your pet.

When asking questions about your leopard geckos health, it's best to include as much information as possible in order to help us best determine what might be wrong with your animal.
So, it is in everyone's best interest to please try to include as much of the information below as possible (high quality pictures are also very helpful):


General Information
Species of lizard:leopard gecko
Gecko's name:waffle
Morph:SHTCT
Gender: female
Age:5 years
Weight:60 grams
Total length: 7 inches
Length of your reptile when you first acquired it: 7 inches
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):previous owner
Captive bred or wild caught:captive bred

Vivarium
Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):12 x 12 x 18
Cage (type, size): 10 gallon tall exo terra
Substrate provided: paper towel
Types of hiding places provided: rock hide
Is there a humidity hide? location? none not enough room
Please describe any other furnishings:
List recent changes in the environment, if any: none

Lighting
Artificial lighting
Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): wattage(s): 25 watt
Fluorescent (tube bulbs):none
Access to ambient daylight from a distant window: some

Heating
Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? yes
What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other): digital thermometer
What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide: 70 degrees
What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground: don't know
What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground: do not know
What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other):heat light
Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners): do not know
Are you using a thermostat(s)? no
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time? rock hide
Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much? no it always is in the 70s in my room

Humidity
Is the humidity measured? no
Humidity range: do not know

Diet
Insects and worms, list type: crickets and mealworms
Regular diet fed to the insects and worms: crickets: apple mealworms: orange
Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with?yes usually with fruit that leos can eat
How often do you feed your gecko? 2-3 times a week
Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often? in calcium bowl
What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both? both
Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without? they are mixed but with only a little bit of d3 but enough to keep them healthy
Multivitamins (include brand name)? Reptivite from zoo med
Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:some fruits

General Health
If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs: poop looks like pudding but do not know if gecko is sick
Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? normal
Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? normal
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight (loss or gain): no
Discharge from the eyes or nose:no
Increased breathing rate or effort:no
Change in the droppings:yes looks like pudding
Urates
---white or yellowish:white
---size of urates as compared to size of feces:smaller
Abnormal skin color or shedding: normal
Parasites on the skin or in the feces: no
Weakness:none

Previous problems and/or illnesses:

Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
List other animals that are kept in the same cage:none
Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months): none
Are any of your other pets ill? no
 
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Elizabeth Freer

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Please remove ANY calcium with D3 (or any vitamin supplements) from the tank right away because of the chance of D3 overdosage.

A 12 x 12 x 18 Exo Terra tank is designed for arboreal geckos, not leos. Leos need a tank: 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall in order to establish proper warm and cool ends.

Have you the Reptivite with or without D3?

Temperatures for all leos regardless of size:
88-93 F (31-34 C) ground temp at warm end inside the warm dry hide
no greater than 85 F (29.5 C) air temp - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
no greater than 75 F (24.5 C) air temp - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

Leave the UTH on 24/7. Can turn off overhead heating at night.

Please thoroughly read the Leo Caresheet linked right below in my signature for explanations on just about everything leo.
 
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ok number 1 i asked the person who works with reptiles at pet smart if waffle could live in that 10 gallon tall cage and he said that would be fine as long as she had a hide water bowl and food bowl witch she has all of those and still has room to roam and number 2 she climbs ALOT cause i will wake up in the middle of the night and i will see waffle climbing towards her screen on top of her cage but thanks anyway plus i just removed the d3 calcium
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
ok number 1 i asked the person who works with reptiles at pet smart if waffle could live in that 10 gallon tall cage and he said that would be fine as long as she had a hide water bowl and food bowl witch she has all of those and still has room to roam and number 2 she climbs ALOT cause i will wake up in the middle of the night and i will see waffle climbing towards her screen on top of her cage but thanks anyway plus i just removed the d3 calcium

Good job removing the D3 calcium from Waffle's cage :).

You have been given very poor information on keeping your leopard gecko healthy from that particular employee. The real problem is that it happens all the time :yikes:.

Change in the droppings:yes looks like pudding

You report a temperature of 70 F only and that you are heating the cage with a 25 watt bulb! At those temperatures your leo cannot digest his food :-(. Have you someone to help you read though my caresheet and help get you started on the right path? You don't want your leopard gecko to die.

Your leo need 3 hides: warm dry, warm moist, and cool dry. These hides need to be spread across the length of preferably a tank which measures 30 x 12 x 12 inches LONG. Every so often Petco has a $1 per gallon sale on tanks. That is a good way to upgrade Waffle's habitat.

No one ever suggests keeping a leopard gecko in a tank designed for a gecko who can climb on the glass. That is something leopard geckos cannot do.

So how about giving GU the opportunity to give you some better advice ;-)?
 
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thanks! but i actually just moved waffle into a 10 gallon long cage and put one of my other geckos in it. but do not worry about the gecko in that cage she is doing great! and if this helps when it is their shedding day i put them in a container with a moist hide,and a big rock hide if that is ok it works so far. thanks!
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
thanks! but i actually just moved waffle into a 10 gallon long cage and put one of my other geckos in it. but do not worry about the gecko in that cage she is doing great! and if this helps when it is their shedding day i put them in a container with a moist hide,and a big rock hide if that is ok it works so far. thanks!

You are welcome :). I am glad you moved leo Waffle to a 10 gallon horizontal tank. Now she has a bigger playground :banana:.

Have you upped the cage temperature for Waffle?

The reason a humid/moist hide is recommended 24/7 is that it helps Waffle not only with shedding but also for proper hydration.

What type gecko did you place in the 12 x 12 x 18?

I appreciate how handy it is to have tanks with front doors. Get weary at times having to move light fixtures to enter some tank.
 
yes i have upped the temp i keep it on whenever i am in the room witch is ALOT i spend most of the day in my room and now all of the geckos tanks stay in the 80's
 
also i put my baby leopard gecko in there she is doing GREAT! do not worry i have 3 leos and know what i am doing i have 2 of my Leos in tall cages but DO NOT worry they are doing just fine!:biggrin:i also let them play alot in my room so they get enough exercise thanks anyway P.S I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING
 

Cor8et

New member
also i put my baby leopard gecko in there she is doing GREAT! do not worry i have 3 leos and know what i am doing i have 2 of my Leos in tall cages but DO NOT worry they are doing just fine!:biggrin:i also let them play alot in my room so they get enough exercise thanks anyway P.S I KNOW WHAT I AM DOING

You sure about that bud? Nothing wrong with taken some good advise and showing appreciation when given good advise ;-)
 
yep i am SURE i even get to bring my geckos to pet smart and they make sure they are healthy and they are COMPLETELY fine i promise i am NOT kidding i am holding one right now and they are doing GREAT i promise i promise i promise
 
oops sorry it is by Garold and Cindy Merker it gives you beginner and advanced advice on leopard geckos and then shows you how to care for a few other geckos witch is really cool! i just opened it a few mins ago!:yahoo: it REALLY helps it gives you lots of info on leos
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
yes i am POSITIVELY sure plus i DID use her advice

No worries.....

oops sorry it is by Garold and Cindy Merker it gives you beginner and advanced advice on leopard geckos and then shows you how to care for a few other geckos witch is really cool! i just opened it a few mins ago!:yahoo: it REALLY helps it gives you lots of info on leos

I am not familiar with this book. How does the advice compare with the info given in the Leopard Gecko Caresheet linked right below in my signature?

sorry i keep saying i used your advice i did honest but i am trying to tell Cor8et that

I understand......
 
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