Gecko eye had gray film and now shut. HELP?!

guccimane

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i know internet advice is no substitute for vet care but please help, you guys seem to know a lot more than me. my leopard geckos eye yesterday was gray. at first i thought she was blind! but beneath this grayish white film i saw her pupil. and my friend said it happened to her gecko, it was just from shedding and it went away. but today, the eye is shut. she wont open it. what should i do? what is this?

also- she is not a good eater. by this i mean, she does not catch her prey well even when both her eyes were good. she also spits out mealworms after chewing it a bit. she also hardly ever seems interested in food. she is 2 and she used to eat so much! what can ido about this?


****before u all comment on the environment...know that everything is perfect! i take excellent care of her and she has a good terranium with all the necessary components. so, that is not the problem i am sure.
 

Tarasbaby

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I would take her to a vet immediately just in case that way you can stop something i it's tracks even if it is something simple
 

Elizabeth Freer

Well-known member
i know internet advice is no substitute for vet care but please help, you guys seem to know a lot more than me. my leopard geckos eye yesterday was gray. at first i thought she was blind! but beneath this grayish white film i saw her pupil. and my friend said it happened to her gecko, it was just from shedding and it went away. but today, the eye is shut. she wont open it. what should i do? what is this?

also- she is not a good eater. by this i mean, she does not catch her prey well even when both her eyes were good. she also spits out mealworms after chewing it a bit. she also hardly ever seems interested in food. she is 2 and she used to eat so much! what can ido about this?


****before u all comment on the environment...know that everything is perfect! i take excellent care of her and she has a good terranium with all the necessary components. so, that is not the problem i am sure.

Many illnesses do not happen "overnight". Responsible troubleshooting involves surveying the care you give your leo. Any problem that has to do with vision is serious. Without a leo's vision she will be dependent upon you for her life which could range beyond 20 years.

While you are waiting for your vet app, please get some normal saline solution to flush her eyes out using a squeeze bottle. Hopefully that will make her more comfortable.

How about sharing a photo of this leo?

There are a huge number of details regarding leo husbandry :). Many of the leo husbandry caresheets are no good. Please thoroughly complete:

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...68527-helping-your-sick-gecko-read-first.html

Perhaps your leo is lacking in dietary vitamin A acetate...important for eye health? Perhaps the temperatures need tweaking?

Temperatures for all leos regardless of size:
88-93 F (31-34 C) ground temp at warm end inside the warm dry hide
no greater than 85 F (29.5 C) air temp - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
no greater than 75 F (24.5 C) air temp - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

Leave the UTH on 24/7. Can turn off overhead heating at night.
 
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Elizabeth Freer

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#22---GU's Mod Hilde on Calcium, Vitamin A, & Vitamin D......deficiencies

VITAMIN A:
: Promotes bone growth, teeth development.
: Helps form and maintain healthy skin, hair, mucous membranes.
: Builds body's resistance to respiratory infections.
: Essential for normal function of retina. Combines with purple pigment of retina (opsin) to form rhodopsin, which is necessary for sight in partial darkness.
: Necessary for proper testicular function, ovarian function, embryonic development, regulation of growth, differentiation of tissues.

VITAMIN D:
: Plays a key role in the absorption of calcium for bone and tooth development.
: Affects cardiovascular health, immune system, cancer prevention
: Has a major role in muscle development & strength
: Key role in mental health and depression avoidance

VITAMINS A & D interaction with other substances:
: Calcium decreases absorption of fat-soluble Vitamins A, D, E and K.

You can't see the Vitamin A shortage easily, except for possibly poor vision and/or aim when hunting. Rough skin is usually shrugged off as a 'bit of a bad shed' and hope it works better next time. If not.... well, we'll just remove the stuck skin with a cotton pad.

Lethargy and weakness might be chalked up to many things including boredom or brumation, never a thought that it could hint at a Vitamin D shortage.

CALCIUM - excess:
Excess calcium in the digestive tract can hinder absorption of Vitamin A and D (we won't worry about E & K here). MBD is often considered to be caused by a shortage of calcium, but can happen even though there is ample calcium available. If there's not enough Vit D available, either stored in the liver absorbed via food/supplements, then there won't be enough calcium absorbed. If you suspect a calcium shortage, it's easy to increase the amount available by dusting more often, even to the point of 'icing' the bugs with calcium, all of which just puts more calcium into the intestines but allowing less and less Vitamin A & D to be absorbed.... a vicious circle. The result is a gecko with possible MBD (even if it's on calcium substrate and gets calcium supplement), and a severe shortage of Vitamin A & D.

And so it continues.... more calcium, less vitamin A & D.

The next big worry is the next generation. The offspring of parents with Vitamin A and/or D imbalance can affect the young - they might hatch tiny, maybe shorter than normal tails, missing or deformed eyelids, a pouch-like flap of skin under the chin (looks like a tiny dewlap), weak, poor vision or even blind, weak or even deformed bones, including skull. It gets shrugged off as one of those things, after all, even in the wild they don't all hatch perfect.

Who would have thought that it could be traced to excess calcium?

Some people shy away from supplementing with pre-formed Vitamin A. It's been proven that geckos need it, they can't convert beta-carotene well enough to make do with just that. If the parents of your gecko were only supplemented with beta-carotene, no pre-formed Vit A, then they were prime candidates for a Vit A deficiency, and their offspring suffered the consequences. At the very least, add some pre-formed Vit A to the supplements a few times a month. Most can be beta-carotene, but the bit of pre-formed A will tide them over until they get enough beta-carotene converted."
 

Minka

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I know you said the terrarium is fine, but I would double check with an infrared gun to be sure the temps are high enough.
 
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