I caught the grey blue tokay as attached photos last month. And the darker last night. I supposed 1of them is male and another is female because the different of its colour. Can someone tell me which 1 is male n which is female? The new comer (darker tokay) was bitten by the blue grey tokay which I got it earlier in the tank. But now seems to be okay. Shall I separate them? They are both aggressive which I hardly find a right method to separate them. My intention is trying to get a cage mate for it or/and to breed. The greyish blue is slightly bigger than the darker one. But greyish doesnt bark at all. As I read from some articles that my tokay is the normal tokay am I right? Hope someone is kind enough to advice me. I have attached photos. Any suggestion about the settings of the tank, please advice, p/s the pet shop in my area (Hatyai, Thailand) only sells birds, hamster, cats and dogs. So, hope the settings source which I can diy or find from jungle.
Tokay gecko from wild, im beginner!
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Tamara
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Hi, from this photos its not possible to say what sex your tokays are. You should post clear photos from their other side. You can not sex them based on their coloration.
Also, your tank should be higher and more densly planted, i cant see from the photos but maybe you could put the tank on its side or something?
Than put a layer of soil in it, some vertical branches and some plants. Try to create some hiding spaces with some bark or something.
Dont think you need to buy it from the petstore if you live in their natural habitat.
Also, your tank should be higher and more densly planted, i cant see from the photos but maybe you could put the tank on its side or something?
Than put a layer of soil in it, some vertical branches and some plants. Try to create some hiding spaces with some bark or something.
Dont think you need to buy it from the petstore if you live in their natural habitat.
Aimless
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I agree. they both have pores, the but the secretions are pretty typically male.
I also think Tamara's points about your caging are excellent; your Tokays will not survive with that little amount of cover
WC Tokays are generally riddled with parasites, and your geckos look fairly skinny; you might want to treat them.
I also think Tamara's points about your caging are excellent; your Tokays will not survive with that little amount of cover
WC Tokays are generally riddled with parasites, and your geckos look fairly skinny; you might want to treat them.
I agree! They would be MUCH better off as free range house guest's. But if they're both Male's they will fight, and one will be seriously injured or could die. And you say one has already bitten the other. That is a big sign they should really be separated, because 1 is for sure a male, and chance's are the other is as well.
billewicz
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Hello,
First off, lets get them separated before they kill each other. And then lets get them sexed.
Second, as it has been mentioned, giving them vertical hides in between layers of slate, bark, etc. will give them a safe place to hang out.
Third, welcome to the forums. You will find that answer's to most of your questions have been discussed several times in various threads here about Tokay husbandry, feeding, medical care, breeding, etc. Please feel free to read through several of these to help you understand your captives better.
And yes, once having a good understanding of how to sex them and keep them, selecting a pair from your 'back yard' is great fun and can be truly rewarding. I've also enjoyed observing some of our local reptiles in short term captivity and raising a few up from eggs. But only after I knew what I was getting into.
So as an example for me, raising a local snake, toad or tree frog is manageable. Keeping an adult Snapping Turtle is not feasible for me given their large aquatic requirements. So they are simply a catch-&-release for me.
So enjoy your research here and your Tokay of coarse. And here's a couple catch-&-release from last week. My dog finds Easter Box Turtles all the time and I picked this Snapper girl on her way to lay her eggs.
First off, lets get them separated before they kill each other. And then lets get them sexed.
Second, as it has been mentioned, giving them vertical hides in between layers of slate, bark, etc. will give them a safe place to hang out.
Third, welcome to the forums. You will find that answer's to most of your questions have been discussed several times in various threads here about Tokay husbandry, feeding, medical care, breeding, etc. Please feel free to read through several of these to help you understand your captives better.
And yes, once having a good understanding of how to sex them and keep them, selecting a pair from your 'back yard' is great fun and can be truly rewarding. I've also enjoyed observing some of our local reptiles in short term captivity and raising a few up from eggs. But only after I knew what I was getting into.
So as an example for me, raising a local snake, toad or tree frog is manageable. Keeping an adult Snapping Turtle is not feasible for me given their large aquatic requirements. So they are simply a catch-&-release for me.
So enjoy your research here and your Tokay of coarse. And here's a couple catch-&-release from last week. My dog finds Easter Box Turtles all the time and I picked this Snapper girl on her way to lay her eggs.
Thanks guys,
Im loaded with useful information from you guys.
Ive found 2 vertical branches which 1 of it may be the 'safe house' for the tokays and added some plants. These plants may grow without soil and sunlight. A little of water and uv is enough for it to grows. Im still loking for some orkid bark for the bedding of the tokays.
Im still waiting for the right time to capture the photo of the blue grey from the belly side. They are aggressive WC tokays. I hope it is a female so I can breed them. Will remove the darker if greyish is a male. =).
Btw, free range such as in a room seems a good choice for me but I prefer kept them in the tank cos there is a myanmar kid who has a remarkable bite from the tokay around. These amazing geckos attracted me from its changeable color and bark. I would kept them both cos most people who live around my area (myanmar and thai) if they capture tokays, in the next minutes the tokays will turn out to be in a plate of dishes. P/S: im malaysian who just move to Thailand. Or tokays might be the food for their predators. Such as snakes and etc, im having dilemma in keeping them or release them. I will try my very best to create a natural habitat environment for them.
Here I attach some photos of the branch and tank, photos of snakes skin left after moulting process which I found at my backyard pond. Some myanmar said its cobra.
Im loaded with useful information from you guys.
Ive found 2 vertical branches which 1 of it may be the 'safe house' for the tokays and added some plants. These plants may grow without soil and sunlight. A little of water and uv is enough for it to grows. Im still loking for some orkid bark for the bedding of the tokays.
Im still waiting for the right time to capture the photo of the blue grey from the belly side. They are aggressive WC tokays. I hope it is a female so I can breed them. Will remove the darker if greyish is a male. =).
Btw, free range such as in a room seems a good choice for me but I prefer kept them in the tank cos there is a myanmar kid who has a remarkable bite from the tokay around. These amazing geckos attracted me from its changeable color and bark. I would kept them both cos most people who live around my area (myanmar and thai) if they capture tokays, in the next minutes the tokays will turn out to be in a plate of dishes. P/S: im malaysian who just move to Thailand. Or tokays might be the food for their predators. Such as snakes and etc, im having dilemma in keeping them or release them. I will try my very best to create a natural habitat environment for them.
Here I attach some photos of the branch and tank, photos of snakes skin left after moulting process which I found at my backyard pond. Some myanmar said its cobra.
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billewicz
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I agree, Tokay do not crawl on the ground unless they are dying. They live on trunks and walls, in between layers of bark, etc. They do not hangout horizontally on branches.
Thank again...noted. I will reposition those branches. Here attaches with a photo of greyish its a male or female.? Its in moulting process.. =) they shed skin like snakes is this normal? Haha im the noob for geckos. Im getting another gecko real soon, heard its bark last night but I really hope I can found a female.
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billewicz
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Definitely male and the two will try to kill each other. Until then, the two will fight. You have a Tokay version of **** Fighting!!! :fight::fight::fight: Please pull one of the males out now.
Also, females do not call. Only males call with a string of "Toe-kay" or the "Gek-ko" sounds. Females will bark if disturbed as a warning but do not call by them selves. You are probably chasing another male.
billewicz
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What happened? Is the common name for a rooster banned on this forum? That's really funny. :coverlaugh: Probably a good thing we don't use the typical vernacular for female dogs to describe a Dame Tokay. :biggrin: