Can geckos get car sick or...?

Nikkles

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General Information
Species of lizard: leopard gecko
Gecko's name: Mango
Morph: tremper albino (I think)
Gender: female
Age: unknown; was considered a juvenile at Petsmart
Weight: unknown
Total length: about 4-5 inches
Length of your reptile when you first acquired it: same as above; just got her 8 days ago
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner): Petsmart
Captive bred or wild caught: captive

Vivarium
Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth): 20 gal long (30x12x12)
Cage (type, size): glass, 20 gal long
Substrate provided: paper towels
Types of hiding places provided: warm shelter, cool shelter, moist shelter
Is there a humidity hide? location? yes, in between warm and cool shelter
Please describe any other furnishings: food bowl, water dish, and calcium dish
List recent changes in the environment, if any: just moved her into my new apartment yesterday; changed her to a better suited tank today

Lighting - No lighting at this time
Artificial lighting
Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): wattage(s):
Fluorescent (tube bulbs):
Access to ambient daylight from a distant window:

Heating
Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? yes
What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarium type, other): analog thermometer/hygrometer; zoo med digital thermometer w/probe
What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide: approx. 92
What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground:
What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground:
What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other): UTH
Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners): layered cardboard under all 4 corners, about an 1/2in high
Are you using a thermostat(s)? ordered one 2 days ago so should be in today
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time? warm hide
Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much? no

Humidity
Is the humidity measured? yes
Humidity range: 20-50%; my apartment has terrible circulation and my room has no AC unit

Diet
Insects and worms, list type: small mealworms, small to medium crickets
Regular diet fed to the insects and worms: crickets receive Fluker's orange cubes
Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with?
How often do you feed your gecko? every day; now has a constant supply of mealies and 3 to 5 dusted crickets in the evening
Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often? Zoo Med repticalcium with D3 is mixed with Rep-Cal herptivite at a 1:1 ratio dusted on crickets every evening; Zoo Med repticalcium without D3 left in tank at all times
What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both? both; plain calcium carbonate in a shallow dish in the tank, calcium with D3 dusted on crickets
Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without? without
Multivitamins (include brand name)? Rep-Cal reptivite with beta carotene
Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet: wasn't eating at all yesterday

General Health
If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs: runny stool yesterday and this evening, though this evening looks better than last night's; very lethargic and weak yesterday
Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? was lethargic yesterday, today is normal
Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? normal
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight (loss or gain): no
Discharge from the eyes or nose: no
Increased breathing rate or effort: no
Change in the droppings: yes, runny instead of formed
Urates
---white or yellowish: white
---size of urates as compared to size of feces: about half the size
Abnormal skin color or shedding: no
Parasites on the skin or in the feces: none that I know of
Weakness: yesterday, yes

Previous problems and/or illnesses:

Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household: household - Costa Rican zebra tarantula that I'm watching for a friend and my betta fish
List other animals that are kept in the same cage: none
Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months):
Are any of your other pets ill? no


A little history before I get to the issue: I was stupid and ended up buying a leo starter kit in the attempt to save some money. Unfortunately, I realized as soon as I set it up that it was a waste. It looked like this:
starter tank.jpg
I posted in a thread a few days ago and was pointed to the care sheet that I wish I had seen sooner! I knew that I had to buy all of the new stuff that was recommended so my Mango would stay happy and healthy. But the timing was terrible--I was moving into my new apartment at the time, so my schedule was crazy and hectic. I left her at home with my parents for one night until yesterday. In the car on the way to my apartment, she was curious and peeking around. When I got her here, she was acting really strange. She was weak and lethargic. She didn't come out at night to hunt and move about (that I saw, at least). She also had really runny stool last night. Could that be from the stress of moving that caused her to do this? Leopard gecko car sickness? :p

Today, when I woke up, she was still acting sick. I ended up buying a 20 gal long aquarium, set up her moist, warm, and cool shelters, and bought a UTH instead of the heat lamps. Before I put her in the new tank, she was acting more normal. I set up and moved her into it, and she was acting like her old self. She was very curious and I think she loves that fact that she has more room to explore and stretch her tiny legs. :) However, even though she was acting normal and eating fine, she still had a little bit of runny feces, though it wasn't as bad as last night.
My new tank:
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Her feces tonight:
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Thanks for the help in advance, guys!
Nikki
 
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GeckoManiac91

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Hello again :)

Good on you for making those changes. Im sure Mango will much appreciate it ;)

Chances are you will still need some sort of overhead heating to create a warm zone and not just a warm spot.
This can be done through a Ceramic Heat Emitter connected to a thermostat as I said in the other thread.
It would be best to measure the air temperatures with your Thermomter with a Probe or go out and by a Digital Thermometer because the Analog ones really are crap.

Im assuming the car ride and the move may have been stressful on her. This could possibly explain the runny stool? :? Im sure it will clear up in a couple days.
 
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