Changing habitats for my crested gecko

LeeLee13

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Okay, recently I was gifted with a 42 gallon bow-front tank that had been used as an iguana set up. It currently houses my male crested gecko, Squid. I've never tried creating a vivarium or anything like it, but that is the direction I want to go. I have been researching the best way to do this, and have a general idea of what needs to be done before I actually start planting. I'd like to know if anyone here has converted a bow-front tank to a vivarium? If so, what advice would you give to someone starting out?

The first thing I have to do is replace the broken glass canopy that it came with. I have considered using mesh wire, but have also been looking into using hood lighting instead of dome lights that are easily knocked around.

I've attached pics of the new set up...it does currently have fake plants/decorations for Squid to use temporarily.
 

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LeeLee13

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Yeah, it just has fake plants for now until I can start the planting process but he is already enjoying it. If only I could find a hood or screen top that fits.
 

scotty08724

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Start with checking out Josh's Frogs website. Josh's Frogs How-To Guides » Blog Archive » Terrarium, Vivarium, and Habitat Information They cover everything you need to know about the best way to build your vivarium. I have found this to be the most in depth yet concise and easy to under stand guide. They even have charts of "if you have this size tank ---> use this many bags of substrate, this many bags of drainage layer." They also have another section where you can buy an assortment of plants, based on the size of your tank and what animal will be in with them. So now assuming you have your; drainage layer, substrate barrier, substrate, all in the tank. plant your plants and allow your plants a week or more so they can get a strong rooting before you put any animals in the tank, so the gecko doesn't knock them over.

As far as personal experience, I used and recommend, ABG mix substrate, a Ficus with a thick and strong trunk and branches. I bought and replaced my ficus 3 times because my crestie kept out growing them and I had to put in ever thicker branched ficus trees as I found them. Pothos plants, grow fast, they have strong stems and leaves that will support a full grown gecko, they also will climb up things when they run into them. I do not recommend using leaf litter over the substrate, when you feed live insects they immediately take cover under the leaves and by the time your gecko finds them, anything you dusted them with has already rubbed off. I instead used moss from the woods behind my house, I went through a few different kinds till I found a species of moss that would survive in my tanks. I use 3 different species of Isopods, and 2 species of springtails as my clean up crew(poop and fungus eaters) so I have never had to pick up a single poop and my tank smells as fresh as the day I planted it(a year ago). I recently added red wiggler worms to aerate the soil. I used alot of cork bark tubes for hides, the isopods do not seem to eat the cork bark like they did with other types of wood. When your all done planting your tank, go around and fill in any little cracks in the wood or tight spaces that crickets can get into that your gecko can not, other wise you will be like me and have mass cricket breeding and endless chirping in your tank. Also make sure nothing is touching the screen top to your tank, crickets and other bugs can squeeze through the smallest of holes. USE DISTILLED WATER when spraying your tank down, the calcium buildup that you get from using tap or even bottled drinking water is almost impossible to get off with out using harsh chemicals.

DSCN0105.jpg This was my first Vivarium build, notice the tiny ficus in the back right, It looked big compared to a baby crestie, but in 6 months, did not have any substantial growth. Also I built my substrate up to high, right up to the air vents in the front of the Exo-Terra Tank. I kept finding what looked like dust or sand building up in front of the tank, which turned out to be the spring tails that were walking out the air vents like lemmings, walking off the edge of a cliff, one after another.

DSCN0187.jpg Can you spot the gecko? This version was revised with some live moss and a taller but still thin ficus.

DSCN1070.jpgThis is how It looks today. The Pothos and ficus have to be trimmed down once a month so they dont touch the top. I tried alot of different plants that did not survive, so these are the survivors
 
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CrestedRick

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That will look really good! The stand looks like it will hold the weight but double check before you start a planted viv, it may not seem like it but it is going to add quite a bit of weight, either way it will look great!
 

LeeLee13

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CrestedRick I didn't even think to do that, so thanks for recommending that! The cabinet has lots of storage space, so if need be I can get my brother to build some extra support inside it to hold the tank.

Scotty, unfortunately because of circumstances surrounding my cresties other enclosure, I've had to move him into the new terrarium already. However, once I am able to get all the supplies needed, if I need to, I could probably get a small enclosure for him to stay in for a week or so. What do you think?
 

scotty08724

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I put my gecko in the same day I planted my tank as well. It isn't a huge deal, just make sure to support the fleshly planted plants with something to keep them from tipping over. Also in the first week or so of planting the tank, you will get an outbreak of mold, it looks like spider webs over the substrate. I have been told it is not one of the harmful types of mold, and in about another week it tends to go away. That has happened in both my planted vivariums.
 

LeeLee13

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Ah okay. I can do that...was just thinking if it was absolutely necessary I could take him out for a week. I am excited to start working on this. Also working on planting my fish tank so doing all this will be fun!
 

LeeLee13

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Just curious, but what sort of lighting would be suggested for a viv this size? 36x16x20 (46 gallons) I know the crestie doesn't really need it, but the plants will. Oh and what amount of heat would be good? My room gets colder than 50 degrees usually in the winter, and I worry about him getting way too cold without heat.
 

LeeLee13

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And far as crickets go, my crestie has never been interested in those. Mealworms, he loves. Fruit bites, he loves. Crickets, no. So I dust his mealworms and fruits with calcium.
 

CrestedRick

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Mine are on a diet of CGD and occasionally I feed my cresties dubia roaches, easier to keep than crickets and easier to handle. I have dome fixtures with 18w CFL bulbs, my tank is 24 inches deep. My temps in the winter dip to about 55℉, as far as heating I would look into a Ceramic Heat Emitter (CME) these just screw into the light fixtures. I don't use the CME since these guys are tough but in you case I would look into a CME or search the forums for more heating ideas. Under the tank heaters (UTH) I wouldn't suggest since you have your drainage layer and that would heat the water up and kill your cleaning crew.
 

LeeLee13

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I know about dubia roaches...but I am one of those squeamish people that don't want anything to do with any kind of roaches. I'm sure that sounds horrible, lol. I was asking about heating here because I wasn't sure if there were certain things to look for/avoid when doing a vivarium. First time I've ever done anything like this so just want to make sure I am doing it right.
 

CrestedRick

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Trust me I spent hours on here before I spend the money doing mine. I just don't have the need for a heater so I try the best I can to help with the info I've learned here.
 

LeeLee13

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Part of me wants to hurry up and get this done...not because I want to rush through it, but because I am excited about it. I have remind myself to slow down and do my research.

Summer time isn't an issue because I have a separate window unit that cools only my room...it's just winter time that worries me because of how cold my room gets.
 

LeeLee13

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"Start with checking out Josh's Frogs website. Josh's Frogs How-To Guides » Blog Archive » Terrarium, Vivarium, and Habitat Information They cover everything you need to know about the best way to build your vivarium. I have found this to be the most in depth yet concise and easy to under stand guide. They even have charts of "if you have this size tank ---> use this many bags of substrate, this many bags of drainage layer." They also have another section where you can buy an assortment of plants, based on the size of your tank and what animal will be in with them. So now assuming you have your; drainage layer, substrate barrier, substrate, all in the tank. plant your plants and allow your plants a week or more so they can get a strong rooting before you put any animals in the tank, so the gecko doesn't knock them over."

Ok I have been looking into this, and I think if I bought two substrate barriers (Josh's Frogs has them 18X24) I could cut as needed to fit the dimensions of my tank.
 

CrestedRick

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New England Herpetoculture LLC - Vivarium Care Info Menu
Check out viv construction 101 and 102. I bought all my supplies from Mike and Jess and they stand by their products. They have a guide as well to order your set up kids. Check them out and those guides, helped me immensely. Remember, this isn't cheap to do, so research it, plan it out, then think about it and plan it again to make sure everything will work. Order your stuff then plan again , put as much time in as you can and you will not be disappointed, trust me.
 

LeeLee13

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Thanks CrestedRick I will definitely check those out. I am still figuring out what I need to get in order of supplies before I actually start buying. Just comparing the facts and products of what I will need. That itself is fun to do.
 

KarenL

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"Ok I have been looking into this, and I think if I bought two substrate barriers (Josh's Frogs has them 18X24) I could cut as needed to fit the dimensions of my tank.

I used vinyl window screen fabric from Lowes as a substrate barrier in my vivs - it works perfectly & is much cheaper than the barriers you can buy on line. I think I paid about $10 for a roll & have done two 18x18x24" vivs & three 12x12x18"'s with some spare.
 
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