what morphs are my geckos?

[FoxGeckos]

so when i first got my geckos at a reptile expo about a month ago, they had their morphs written on their boxes but im a little skeptical about my male (the box said snow het bell but when i looked it up, none looked like him) and one of my females (the female didnt have anything except price written on the box) so i'd like someone to tell me what they are

jesse (the female that was only priced)

jacques (the male, breeder said he was a snow het bell)

and one that i'd just like to make sure on, harvey (female, breeders told me she was a tangerine)

(sorry her pics arent too clear, shes a little skiddish)

 

[Solagratia500]

The female looks like a pretty looks to be a super hypo baldy tangerine! The male...I think they mismarked...A snow would be more white and black, they can have a tinge of yellowing but they aren't borderline high yellow. Also if he was just a snow then you'd see the bell albino because snows are co-dominant gene and you'd be able to seen both genes physically at least a bit..(I hope you didn't pay much for that..I'd actually be really irritated at the breeder ><)

 

[acpart]

You would not see the Bell albino in a snow het bell. It would be het Bell because it has one gene for Bell albino and there would be no visible trait. The co-dominance has nothing to do with it. I have produced a number of snows that have yellowed up to that extent as adults, so it very well could be a snow. If they are bred together you'll find out soon enough.

Aliza

 

[Solagratia500]

Co-dominant means it expressed both phenotypes fully. Doesn't matter if it's 75% snow and 25% bell. that's why you can have super snow albinos who are a fully white gecko from the snow side but pink spots and eyes from the albino. Mack snows can yellow up a bit, but generally they only start getting that brightly yellowed up if it's bred with a normal. In which you'd see the white in the tail more but the gecko itself could be more yellow. Also if you did have a snow crossed with a normal to make it yellow then threw in the bell it wouldn't express the albinism because the normal dominant gene would override it. I work with mack snows, bell albinos, and super snow albinos also. but yea..I guess if they crossed a snow with a normal then added a bell it would make sense that it's a het bell that you wouldn't see the bell. I still believe that's false advertising though.

 

[acpart]

I'm not sure what you mean by false advertising, could you explain? I've produced Mack snows that are that yellow as adults. If one of the parents of this gecko was a Bell albino then the gecko would be het Bell. I'd love to understand why we don't agree (and what it is we don't agree about, because it isn't clear). More please!

Aliza

 

[FoxGeckos]

nah i dont think i payed too much for him! (i bought all three geckos at 50 usd each, so 150 usd in total!)
i'd just like to know what kind my male is so i can use a morph calculator for them since i plan on breeding them once i buy a decent incubator

 

[acpart]

There's no way to tell anything about what your male is by looking at him. Assume he is what he was sold to be and plug snow and het Bell into the calculator, If you don't get what you're expecting then you can try to figure out what he really is (for example, if you breed him to a non-snow female, produce many babies and get no snows then he's not a snow. If you breed him to a Bell or het Bell female, produce many babies and get no Bells then he's not het Bell).

Aliza