Fireclaw147
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Are they alive still?
Crypto Confirmed - Desperate and Trying Paramomycin- Anyone succeed???
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Tegugirl3
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Most of them reptiles from the shows are sick trust me I owed a healthy make tokay gecko and when I bought a female from the show I kept her away for 3 -4 months she was healthy looking good decided to put her n my male together and she got him sick and they both died and at that point I kicked my self in the ass for buying her cuz what ever she had she gave it to him and they both died
YES--- we are STILL kicking CRYPTO in the A$$ - 
Fancy is still doing AWESOME... she has been eating so well and her color and weight continues to be FABULOUS... I won't ever claim that her CRYPTO is cured but it sure appears to be in remission of some sorts. We have been off antibiotics for 2 months and she continues to be healthy and active. I will likely always worry about her given what we went through fighting crypto but she is ALIVE and WELL for now.. I will post a new pic of my big pinky and her current weight.. she has a super nice fat tail these days. :banana:
And we actually added a pair of sister Leo's to our family.. Lilly and Rosey are half sisters 2 weeks apart in age. They came from Derik at Griffith Exotics - Breeding Quality Reptiles and Leopard Geckos.Griffith Exotics | Breeding Quality Reptiles and Leopard Geckos. . He has some BEAUTIFUL geckos.. We brought them home for my birthday in September. They reside seperate from all other geckos in their own enclosure (lessons learned) and they are hunting and putting on weight like crazy and they actually snuggle up together and seem to like sharing a home. Guess if that is all they have ever known, its their "normal".
Creature and Daisy could be linebackers for the KC Chiefs. Will post pics of them too.. They are both so muscular that I think the ground rumbles when they walk LOL..and neither one shows any sign of illness.. so continue to be grateful the crypto didnt spread!!!
And nutty person that I am... I bought a small dubia colony ... my hope is to just have enough dubia to keep my Leos fed so wish me luck please.
Best wishes
Tara
Fancy is still doing AWESOME... she has been eating so well and her color and weight continues to be FABULOUS... I won't ever claim that her CRYPTO is cured but it sure appears to be in remission of some sorts. We have been off antibiotics for 2 months and she continues to be healthy and active. I will likely always worry about her given what we went through fighting crypto but she is ALIVE and WELL for now.. I will post a new pic of my big pinky and her current weight.. she has a super nice fat tail these days. :banana:
And we actually added a pair of sister Leo's to our family.. Lilly and Rosey are half sisters 2 weeks apart in age. They came from Derik at Griffith Exotics - Breeding Quality Reptiles and Leopard Geckos.Griffith Exotics | Breeding Quality Reptiles and Leopard Geckos. . He has some BEAUTIFUL geckos.. We brought them home for my birthday in September. They reside seperate from all other geckos in their own enclosure (lessons learned) and they are hunting and putting on weight like crazy and they actually snuggle up together and seem to like sharing a home. Guess if that is all they have ever known, its their "normal".
Creature and Daisy could be linebackers for the KC Chiefs. Will post pics of them too.. They are both so muscular that I think the ground rumbles when they walk LOL..and neither one shows any sign of illness.. so continue to be grateful the crypto didnt spread!!!
And nutty person that I am... I bought a small dubia colony ... my hope is to just have enough dubia to keep my Leos fed so wish me luck please.
Best wishes
Tara
MistyBleil
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Good luck with the dubia colony. Hmarie has a nice healthy colony, if you need advice.
Our Leo's are still doing so well. We feel really lucky. Fancy is keeping her weight up and continues to register 44 grams since November. She may never be a big gecko but she is holding her ownn despite the crypto disgnosis.
My babies Lilly and Rosey are so big. Lilly is up to 66 grams and Rosey at 50 grams and these girls are only 6 months old... Of course we have our BIG Leos too.. Creature at 95 grams is built like a linebacker and Daisy at 82 grams who is pure muscle.
The mostly dubia diet for Creature, Daisy, and Lilly really seems to make for some big healthy geckos. Rosey won't touch dubias but loves mealworms and the occassional wax worm. Fancy goes back and forth but generally likes a little bit of each.
Happy New Year all.
Tara
My babies Lilly and Rosey are so big. Lilly is up to 66 grams and Rosey at 50 grams and these girls are only 6 months old... Of course we have our BIG Leos too.. Creature at 95 grams is built like a linebacker and Daisy at 82 grams who is pure muscle.
The mostly dubia diet for Creature, Daisy, and Lilly really seems to make for some big healthy geckos. Rosey won't touch dubias but loves mealworms and the occassional wax worm. Fancy goes back and forth but generally likes a little bit of each.
Happy New Year all.
Tara
StickyFingers
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Tara.R-
How is Fancy doing? I have a gecko whose diagnosis thus far is "crypto until proven otherwise," and if it ends up being crypto, I will probably be trying Paramomycin.
How is Fancy doing? I have a gecko whose diagnosis thus far is "crypto until proven otherwise," and if it ends up being crypto, I will probably be trying Paramomycin.
She is still doing well!!! Annoyingly 4 of my 5 geckos went through what appears to be brumation from late February through early May eating very little and losing a little weight but nothing significant... for example Creature went from 93 grams down to 85 grams and Daisy from 84 grams down to 74 grams.. Fancy ate more than the others but still lost going from 44 down to 35 grams which totally scared me but her appetite is picking up again and she is gaining again although I have not weighed in the last couple weeks. I actually had some of the paramomycin on hand from last year and am opting to dose her weekly just for my peace of mind. My youngest gecko Lilly, who cohabitates with her "bigger half-sister" Rosey, never went off food.. She actually eats 2 times weekly and is built like a linebacker. Her weight going from 79 grams in Feb to 94 grams a few weeks ago while her cagemate Rosey went from 57 down to 54. Hoping this hibernation/brumation ends soon. Good luck with you leo. I really think the paramomycin works.
StickyFingers
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I'm glad to hear she's still doing well!!! It gives me hope for Sanjay
StickyFingers
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Question: How often do you have to have the Paramomycin compounded/how long does it last? I really want to do the treatment, but I'm not sure I'll be able to afford it The vet said it costs over to $100 to compound, and if you have to have it done often, I probably can't do it, which makes me feel terrible.
The vet said it costs over to $100 to compound, and if you have to have it done often, I probably can't do it, which makes me feel terrible.It was expensive.. My vet doesn't compound and had to order from a compounding pharmacy in Arizona. I paid almost $150 for 5ML which was the minimim order quantity but it lasts a year and was more than enough quantity for the entire treatment. You have to keep it refridgerated. I was actually advised to use paramomycin by Dr. Nikola Pantchev- Specialist in Parasitology who has done research on crypto and Leopard Geckos. Here is the dosage he recommended which I provided to my vet. 100 mg/kg BW for 7 days and then 2 times weekly for 3 months. Diagnosing crypto and fighting it is very expensive.. The PCR test we did to get confirmation of the crypto (the only truly accurate test) was about $100. I have to wonder if the reason crypto is so often considered a death sentence and not treated in Leos is the high cost of treatment. But I am stubborn and love this little gecko and am determined to fight.. again.. Good luck.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion as is everyone posting here. However I have had a different experience and am compelled by the data I have located through my research. I am sure it would be simpler to give up than to attempt to cure AIDs or cancer but some of us are more determined. My leopard geckos are part of our family not just acquisitions.
Not sure if you realize it but this thread started 6/9/14.. Fancy was diagnosed with crypto 1 YEAR AGO.. she was very sick for several months but has been progressing steadily since we did the paramomycin regimen last year and we never did any other meds. Just followed the advice based on Dr Pantchev who actually led studies on crypto and Leos at a prominent pharmaceutical research lab in Germany. He is our savior!!! I live in the midwest and finding a very experienced reptile vet is challenging. And sadly, because Leos can be found rather inexpensively, some people find it more appealing to end a life and buy a new Leo vs. trying to spend $$ to save the one they have..
Fancy continues to hunt/eat and put on weight and is alert and active.. We had a rough couple of months last summer but she is a tough little leo and wants to live. It's not a path everyone is willing/able to take but we are certainly glad we did.
Fancy continues to hunt/eat and put on weight and is alert and active.. We had a rough couple of months last summer but she is a tough little leo and wants to live. It's not a path everyone is willing/able to take but we are certainly glad we did.
LEOPARD1
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My hope is that all Leos do well and thrive with Crypto. I'm just saying the majority of cases dont seem to end well even with treatment (I believe Pantchev said that).
I do choose ending life v.s. suffering with animals that are not responding well to any form of treatment.
One year is great thats what caught my eye, I hope it turns into many more.
I do choose ending life v.s. suffering with animals that are not responding well to any form of treatment.
One year is great thats what caught my eye, I hope it turns into many more.