Mystery, to me, morph hatchling

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kewzoo

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Hello,
I'm still learning so please bear with me. My female hypo tangerine carrot-tail Baldy lives with a normal male. Two eggs hatched, and here's what came out! One is a normal, but what on earth is the other? All I know is the female comes from Gem Snow lines. I know nothing about the male. Can anyone help me figure out the second hatchling?
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acpart

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If it's a Mack snow, then it's a Mack snow Murphy's patternless, which means that both of your parent geckos are het for patternless and the female that "comes from Gem snow lines" is actually a Gem snow".

Aliza
 
kvnsu

kvnsu

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From sasobek reptiles, exact same pattern and he said "ID 0042 Mack Snow Patty 66% het eclipse/ bell" Although it's not good to assume just thought they would be the same :coverlaugh: Were you able to click my link Aliza?
 
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K

kewzoo

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Thank you both!
Aliza, please pardon my ignorance--so a gecko can be both a gem snow and a tangerine at the same time? Looking at my notes, I guess the breeder did say both her parents were Gem Snow/Tangerine. My mind couldn't quite wrap around that one, so I guess I corrupted that into "Gem snow lines."

Thanks! Very interesting stuff.
Katharine
 
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acpart

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Gem snow is one of the lines of snow. These geckos are born black and white and often yellow up as they mature. It's a co-dominant gene, which means that if one parent has the snow gene, it will either pass it on to the baby (who will be born black and white) or it won't (and the baby will be black and yellow) and the baby has no snow gene. Tangerine refers to mature coloring and is polygenetic, meaning that there's not just one gene controlling it. A gecko can be a snow and a tangerine. It will be born black and white and then as it matures, the white color will be taken over by orange. Does that help?

Aliza
 
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kewzoo

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Yes, that's a beautiful clear explanation. Thanks so much!
So would I be correct to say my hatchling is a Gem Snow Patty? Is it likely to develop an orange tint when mature? And--hope this doesn't sound too stupid--when mature would it look significantly different from a super hypo tangerine?

Thanks once again.
Katharine
 
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acpart

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It does seem to be a Gem snow patty. It may or may not develop orange coloring. The biggest difference between that and a super hypo is that the tail will likely be very clean and white while the super hypo's tail would be spotted.

Aliza
 
K

kewzoo

New member
Thanks once again for your extremely helpful and clear response!

I have another question about these hatchlings, but I don't think it belongs here in Morphs & Genetics. I'm going to post it in the Breeding section. If you're also knowledgeable about the physiology of breeding, I hope you will take a look at it there.
Thanks again,
Katharine
 
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