Help ID rescued pair

[ChaoFan]

Hello,
can somebody help me ID these 2 leos i could not resist to take home yesterday...they are last year's but look too small for that, not to mention that they don't have a single digit still intact and they were kept in cages just slightly bigger than themselves...



first one is a boy, second is a girl, hope the pictures are clear enough, otherwise i will take some better shots.

Thanks,
Michele

 

[Tegugirl3]

Where did you get them?

 

[ChaoFan]

In a "pet shop" here in china where I live. They were keeping them in 4 x 8 cm boxes poorly feeding them for almost one year. So, if your message was "try to ask them", you can imagine I don't give that much hope .

Thanks,
Michele

 

[Tegugirl3]

I'm not sure morph but there pretty just need some tlc to make them healthy

 

[ChaoFan]

That's for sure Tegugirl :big grin: PS: they had as well an hatchling Tegu in the same store, they didn't even know what it was... they think it's not getting any bigger than that... Selling it for 20 $... unfortunately i don't have enough space for that.

Anyone can help with Leos' morphs?

 

[acpart]

The first one is an aberrant (broken body bands but not tail bands). It's very dark brown, and may possibly be an albino. Check to see if the eyes are red veined. The second one is a hypo possibly tangerine.

Aliza

 

[ChaoFan]

Hello Aliza, thanks, I think you got it. The first one has indeed red veined, i noticed them last night. For the second one, i can verify the tangerine by checking orange/tangerine spots, right? she has one at the very beginning of the tail.

Thanks again,
Michele

 

[ChaoFan]

just a brief update, they are doing great (doubled their weight in one month) and i am more and more convinced they are a bell albino and an hypo tangerine...
happy to show them off and that they are thriving now. :biggrin:

 

[MizTwisted]

Great job I love to see posts like this! They are looking wonderful. Very lucky geckos! That second one turned out to be a nice Super hypo tangerine!

 

[Nynecho]

The yellow one looks like a mack snow hypo, the second is albino, either tremper or bell. You're doing a great job ^^ I can't believe a pet store would be allowed to take such bad care of them.

 

[MizTwisted]

I agree those pepper spots and white-ish bands in the younger photo do hint at snow! A very nice clean tangerine specimen if so! ^.^

 

[ChaoFan]

ohi ohi, and when i thought i was starting to understand something of morphs... ;-)
ok, after MizTwisted suggesting Super Hypo i started looking again on line and wanted to ask "why not White and Yellow"?
So it could be a (Super) Hypo Mack Snow Tangerine? About the "super", I'm not sure 'cause of the few spots she had on her back (around 10). they are now mostly faded away, but could still be seen.

i have another hatchling somehow similar which i can't figure out (i would call it hypo tangerine as well). I have been trying to upload pictures but still fail every time after the sever relocation.

anyway, what's sure is that i love these little guys, the allegedly super hypo mack snow tangerine has an amazing neat and clean cut between the white belly and the tangerine back going also around the head (this line goes at her nose's height) that drives me crazy.

thank you all for the help!

 

[MizTwisted]

The spots looked so faded that any more growing would probably snuff them out, but the 'super' part you can determine after a few more sheds!
I have seen hypos with faded yellow, almost white as babies and also with speckled spots not having any snow in their genes, but since yours has both there's a chance it could be! Since snow looks so close to wild type aside from hatchlings it's pretty hard to tell unless you bred it to a snow.
Would love to keep seeing updates on them! including the clean cut line on the tangy ;-)

 

[ChaoFan]

and i finally managed to upload the pics :roll:
here the clear cut i was talking about. i'm sure it's nothing special, but i don't see it in the other leos i have and it really caught my eye. i will keep posting pictures at any interesting developing :biggrin:



And here also the other baby i was referring to:



s/he is not a rescue so i am going off topic, but... any comment on the morph?

Thanks

 

[MizTwisted]

That gecko is looking great, my nice tangs have that white line you're talking about, I love it too!
That second one does look like it will turn out similar to the tang