Help with Weight of my Leo please?

CWilson13

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Finally got Apollo to eat again, only 2 hornworms but they were good size. Brought him out for a 3rd day in a row too. He is definitely a character. However I think he knows more about Arya being here than I gave him credit for. I had brought her out yesterday morning after morning cleanup. Let her climb all over me and the bed as normal. Last night Apollo wanted out so I did the same with him. He was looking all over the bed and tasting the blanket. I think he caught her scent because of how active he was. Then, the little brat decided to poop on the blanket :???: I am guessing this was his way of leaving behind his scent for her to find...
 

JessJohnson87

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:crackup: I've never had any of my lizards to poop on me or the blankets. I did have some dumpy's tree frogs use me as a toilet when I worked at a pet store many years ago. You might start to notice him cleaning his "junk" after this to keep it fresh for her :biggrin:
 

CWilson13

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Funniest thing about Apollo, first time he vacated his bowels after he came home was on my wife's shoulder :crackup: I have never been pooped on or peed on though. He does get excited if he sees Arya through the glass of his tank. Hopefully it is amorous excitement not aggressive. Since I am not going to breed them due to the lack of info I have regarding their genetics, I doubt they will ever meet face to face. It would really be my luck that either they'd fight or mate... As much as I'd love to have babies around, I can't be that irresponsible.
 

JessJohnson87

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Supervised visitation on the bed could be a possibility but I would wait until breeding season is over. I know they start around this time frame or February ish, Aliza knows more about that. I take back a lizard pooping on me, I had a blue tongued skink that would poop on you if you handled him.

I agree about the babies. Too many sweet geckos out there that need homes, no sense in bringing more into the world.
 

CWilson13

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As much as I would love for them to get along, I am leaning towards not risking it. After all, I already know Pandora and the Leos will never be friends. No harm in the Leos just being neighbors too.
Yet again Apollo decided the bed was a good place to poop last night though. This time it was only he who had come out though. I also came to a realization. He didn't do this the few times I have had him out without my wife present. So, it must be her fault :coverlaugh: First he poops on her then 3 times he does it on the bed when she is around.
 

CWilson13

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A bit of a cross over post today... Went back to the store that I got Apollo from since they have decent prices for frozen mice/rats. This was the 2nd time I'd been in since I got him and the last time I ended up ripping into the kid that works with the Herps. They had a Butter Ball Python in a 10 gallon with a Savu Python. As if the size wasn't bad enough, I held the Butter and realized the poor baby had mites :( Just showed me even more how lucky Apollo and I were the day he came home with me. Who knows what kind of nastiness he could have ended up with had he stayed there. Anyhow, this time the tank that the BP and Savu were in was empty but had fresh bedding at least. However i saw 2 baby Leos, the poor things must have just hatched within the past couple weeks... Sad how fast the turnaround is in the casual pet industry.
Also, yes Apollo did go to the Vet twice after coming home. First time the Dr said he was fine aside from the scarring on his head, 2nd was perfect. Even got compliments on how fat he has become lol
 
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JessJohnson87

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Those poor things! I feel bad for the animals and the unsuspecting customers that have no idea what in the heck is going on. They should be shut down, I can call PETA...lol
 

CWilson13

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If I thought it would do any good I would try similar things lol Sad thing, this is just one of many locations they have. And because they have a quick turnaround, they will stay in business.
I just really needed to rant/vent about it. Plus it reminded me of our chat about not breeding and all the great Geckos that need homes.
 

JessJohnson87

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I have stories from my days working at Petsmart but I won't share them on here. It is sad and they only do it to make a buck and it's sad for the animals and future owners. People like that make my blood boil, maybe once we move to Colorado, I'll have a reptile sanctuary to take in the ones in need.....I'll just add it to my list of other critters I want, horses are a must though :biggrin:
 

CWilson13

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I would love to have all the necessary permits and income to own/run a reptile sanctuary. The biggest problem I would have would be rehoming them after they recovered. I get attached to Herps more than other animals, even more than some people lol
Horses? Now you sound like my mom and oldest daughter :coverlaugh: my mom passed her love of horses down to her :) I love animals in general, aside from rodents as we discussed before, but somehow I just seem to always come back to reptiles.
 

JessJohnson87

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I'm a horse whisperer. I had wild horses coming to me while we were in Las Vegas and I didn't have to tempt them with food, one actually tried to follow me to the car. I grew up around them so they were my first love, I miss having them around. There is an article on gecko time about running a sanctuary.
Running a Reptile Rescue - Gecko Time - Gecko Time That's it, it's a lot harder than most think. Anyways, last off topic post :x
 

CWilson13

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I actually read that article a couple weeks back. Funny how some people think all they have to do is buy an animal, stick it in some sort of enclosure, feed it, clean it, and boom rehabilitated pet. There is almost no possibility of it being a financially profitable undertaking. I think even a zoo will lose money more often than not.
Anyhow, off topic time is over. I got Apollo to eat a fair amount again finally :) little turd wants to be tong fed though. Hoping the weather gets warm soon though and he goes back to being a piggy. He does weigh 76g though so his weight is far from worth worrying about.
 

CWilson13

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Some of the photos of Apollos new fancy flooring :) Still waiting for the tiles to get to the correct temperature, once that is done I will post the full "After" photos and get started on Aryas tank. If you look close at the front view, you might be able to see Mr. Curious in his hide wondering what I am doing. Also, I did add a couple barriers to the sides of his tank, the one on the right is to help keep the light dimmer for his sensitive eyes. The left is to try and keep him from being stressed out at seeing Arya all the time.

Apollo top before.jpg
Apollo front before.jpg
Apollo top in progress.jpg
 

CWilson13

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Since I didn't want to open another thread and already had this one opened, I am just going to ask this question here.

Does anybody know just how good of a sense of smell Leos have? I am asking because sometimes it really seems like mine can tell if I have been in the others tank. Arya has especially taken notice of my hands after I hold Apollo for a bit then go to clean up after her. She seems to sniff my hand and then either posture up or try to climb on my hand. At first I thought it was cute but then I started to wonder if it may be a dominant thing. I read somewhere that Leos lay on top of each other as a sign of dominance.
 

JessJohnson87

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As with most species of animals, I believe they do have a great sense of smell. They use their tongues more for tasting the environment to get a sense of things, but every animals nose is attuned to many different things. She can probably smell his pheromones on your skin that Apollo excretes from his pores and is either intrigued or wondering why you brought this foreign gecko into my tank without realizing it is your hand.
 

CWilson13

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Kind of what I figured. Odd part is, she doesn't flick her tongue on me much. Not right away at least. Once she is on my hand and out of her tank she explores and frequently tastes the air and my arm or wherever she is.
 

CWilson13

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Along with that photo I wanted to add that his appetite seems to be coming back. He now eats every other day instead of every 3-4. He hunts down anything that escapes his dish too :)
 
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