Help with Weight of my Leo please?
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Mr. Apollo has regained his appetite from the winter break. He especially like chasing down his superworms. The dubias are a bit too quick for him most of the time though. He actually doesnt like eating from a dish anymore. If i drop them one at a time in for him, he darts over and gobbles them up. One of these days I am hoping I can record a video of him scrambling about 
He still prefers to be left alone most of the time, but he does seem to enjoy his time out and about. He has decided that I am his favorite though. Surprising because of just how much he was leaning towards my wife before.
He still prefers to be left alone most of the time, but he does seem to enjoy his time out and about. He has decided that I am his favorite though. Surprising because of just how much he was leaning towards my wife before.
JessJohnson87
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I put the dubia on their backs so they can't scurry away. If they scurry away, Ziggy loses interest and goes back to his humid hide.
CWilson13
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I remember seeing the video of him eating one, and you spinning the roach :coverlaugh: Unless Apollo sees something trying to get away from him he loses interest fast. I have to be careful about where I drop the food too, if it is close he misses and I have to grab it again, too far and he doesn't even bother. Lazy butt lol
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Well he picked that roach up by the leg and shook his head, he's been doing that with his food lately, and the leg came off and he threw it to the other side of the tank so the roach ran behind his warm hide. He waltzed off to his humid hide while I fished it out and became skeptical that it would magically fly away again.
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Lol I bet that was a bit fun to see a dubia flying across the tank. Odd that he has learned to shake his head when attacking the bugs, probably helps him from getting bitten by the insects. Both of mine just squint and keep chomping. Apollo gets the big feeders so his chomping gets pretty noisy, even with the reduced chitin of the dubias. I may be a bit sadistic for feeling this way, but I enjoy watching him hunt and eat the bugs
JessJohnson87
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Meh you're in good company here, I look at the roaches as gecko food so that helps me feel a little better about having them in my house and breeding them. He doesn't shake his head with mealworms, just the roaches and bigger hornworms and I still don't know why. It's cool to watch.
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So the big goof has definitely regained his appetite. In fact there are times I catch him looking over at his neighbor and I swear he looks like he'd turn cannibal if given the chance. Lol who knows though, maybe he is just going through his teenager phase :shock: More on "teen" geckos in Aryas thread in a bit. He still has a butthead personality. Tonight while cleaning up, he approached my hand and after I laid it flat for him the bugger put one foot on it and then lifted his chin. Like he had just slain a dragon or something lol
I am working on a new idea for his and Aryas tanks. Borrowing an idea from you Jess. I am trying to find a way to give both of them a 2nd level of tile where I can put the warm and dry hide and keep the humid hide underneath. So far it is mostly just in the experimental phase. Both do have new humid hides though. Covered with stones like Jess did, just not as artistically :coverlaugh: I will have photos of those soon.
I am working on a new idea for his and Aryas tanks. Borrowing an idea from you Jess. I am trying to find a way to give both of them a 2nd level of tile where I can put the warm and dry hide and keep the humid hide underneath. So far it is mostly just in the experimental phase. Both do have new humid hides though. Covered with stones like Jess did, just not as artistically :coverlaugh: I will have photos of those soon.
JessJohnson87
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You can use PVC pipe and paint it with spray paint to give them a second level. Aliza did this for one of her leo's and JIMI has a second level in Theseus's cage. Ideally you want to sandwich a heat mat between two pieces of tile with little furniture movers for air flow or just put it on the cool side of the tank.
I can't wait to see the hides
Mine have started falling apart from where the silicone does not want to stick to the plastic anymore but Ziggy won't need them once he moves into his newly renovated bio-active tank.
I can't wait to see the hides
Mine have started falling apart from where the silicone does not want to stick to the plastic anymore but Ziggy won't need them once he moves into his newly renovated bio-active tank.
CWilson13
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I actually am nearly copying your method Jess :crackup: Travertine as supports and another tile like the main floor ones. If I could draw or get it set up without issues like I ran into today... I could show pictures. Sadly even my drawings are extremely crude and barely could be considered 2 dimensional.
Not sure how well you can picture things in your mind, but looking at the front of a 20 long, all the way to one side I put the humid hide(Actual dimensions of HH are 9.75"L x 6.5"W x 3.5"H). It stretches from the front to the back with around a 1" gap left between hide and glass.To fill that in I took 7"L x 3.6"W travertine and laid them so the 3.6 is the height. Place those in between the glass and HH both front and back of the tank. On top of those support frames I laid another 12 x 12 (Actually 11.81 but who is counting.) as a floor level. On top of that went the regular dry hides.
Again, not sure how well you can picture things, but that is the base idea I am working on. It is still in progress though. Today was just phase one of my testing. Arya showed me that I still have work to do just on getting the framing down. Apollo I do not want to test anything on because he is so moody about things moving in his tank. Plus Arya is much more active than he is and will enjoy the climbing more I believe.
Not sure how well you can picture things in your mind, but looking at the front of a 20 long, all the way to one side I put the humid hide(Actual dimensions of HH are 9.75"L x 6.5"W x 3.5"H). It stretches from the front to the back with around a 1" gap left between hide and glass.To fill that in I took 7"L x 3.6"W travertine and laid them so the 3.6 is the height. Place those in between the glass and HH both front and back of the tank. On top of those support frames I laid another 12 x 12 (Actually 11.81 but who is counting.) as a floor level. On top of that went the regular dry hides.
Again, not sure how well you can picture things, but that is the base idea I am working on. It is still in progress though. Today was just phase one of my testing. Arya showed me that I still have work to do just on getting the framing down. Apollo I do not want to test anything on because he is so moody about things moving in his tank. Plus Arya is much more active than he is and will enjoy the climbing more I believe.
JessJohnson87
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Sounds like a plan, your drawing cannot be any worse than my very rough sketch of the bio-active enclosure.
Can't wait to see everything when it's done
Can't wait to see everything when it's done
CWilson13
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You'd be surprised... Even the stick figures I draw end up asymmetrical. I used to be good at Computer Drafting, but I don't have any of the programs anymore.
I really have high hopes for this set up, just like the humid hides with stones glued to them, I owe you a big Thank you for the idea! So far the hot glue has worked out well on one of the hides. The other I think is having issues because of how smooth the rocks are. Soon I will at least have some pictures of them.
I really have high hopes for this set up, just like the humid hides with stones glued to them, I owe you a big Thank you for the idea! So far the hot glue has worked out well on one of the hides. The other I think is having issues because of how smooth the rocks are. Soon I will at least have some pictures of them.
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The rocks are still falling off Apollos new HH, but he definitely seems to enjoy the extra space. Because of the glare I am having a hard time getting decent photos of the HHs, gonna try for some the next time I refresh the moss inside.
He is such a goofy gecko though, he gets all puffy when he first sees us, but then decides that he likes us and climbs on my hand. Only mine though. :coverlaugh: Here are a few newer photos of the chunker. I still have to weigh him but I am pretty sure he is up around the 80g level now.
He is such a goofy gecko though, he gets all puffy when he first sees us, but then decides that he likes us and climbs on my hand. Only mine though. :coverlaugh: Here are a few newer photos of the chunker. I still have to weigh him but I am pretty sure he is up around the 80g level now.
JessJohnson87
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That face <3
The new hide looks good
The new hide looks good
CWilson13
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So, yesterday was the New England Reptile Expo and I was able to get silkworms finally.
Oddest thing though. My little piggy boy didn't seem to like them :yikes: :scratchhead: For those who have used silks as feeders before, is there a trick to getting Leos to eat them? The silks seemed to have a fair amount of silk stuck to them. Is there an easy way to clean it off?
Oddest thing though. My little piggy boy didn't seem to like them :yikes: :scratchhead: For those who have used silks as feeders before, is there a trick to getting Leos to eat them? The silks seemed to have a fair amount of silk stuck to them. Is there an easy way to clean it off?
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Still doesn't like crickets :crackup: he ate one and the rest he just turned his nose up. I really think he needs to go on a more strict diet though. He is still in the mid 80s on weight and when he walks around his hide, he almost slithers. His back half barely comes off the tile. Not sure if it is just his weight, the tile itself, or that he is lazy... :scratchhead: When he is hunting he walks normally, same with being out of the tank. Odd situation... Any feedback on this sort of behavior would be appreciated.
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Been a very long time since I was able to post. Just wanted to drop an update and say hello to everyone!
First off Apollo is still doing great, though he has become quite spoiled :crackup: He prefers to be fed straight from the tongs with dubias. He sort of will hunt but has poor accuracy when going for the bite. Still a big chunky butt at around 80g too. Hopefully the photo attaches properly
First off Apollo is still doing great, though he has become quite spoiled :crackup: He prefers to be fed straight from the tongs with dubias. He sort of will hunt but has poor accuracy when going for the bite. Still a big chunky butt at around 80g too. Hopefully the photo attaches properly