JessJohnson87
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I was looking at some yesterday in the pet store that I get my roaches at. Leaning towards a tangerine or a mack snow.
Leopard Gecko suddenly off food and always in humid hide
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amsdadtodd
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Jess, my Hopper is a Mack snow, and Berry is a super snow. I would have to say they are a good choice, it's a well established morph which has been bred along responsibly, and the genetics are understood well and provide predictable results.
The new lemon frost pictures I've seen look stunning, I haven't seen one in life yet, but I understand they are selling for very high cost due to the limited supply.
Todd
The new lemon frost pictures I've seen look stunning, I haven't seen one in life yet, but I understand they are selling for very high cost due to the limited supply.
Todd
JessJohnson87
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If I get a tangerine, I already have a name for it...Tango! Mack snow I have no idea, it'll probably be another letter from the military phonetic alphabet.
I don't plan on breeding, that's too much work for me with everything else I have to do to keep this house going.
I don't plan on breeding, that's too much work for me with everything else I have to do to keep this house going.
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Hello, dear! I just wanted to update that his shed went fine. He's eating a little weird, though. He'll eat one mealworm one day, four the next, poop, and then the cycle repeats. He's also still in his humid hide generally (unless I shoo him out of it to go use his warm hide). It also doesn't help that he seems to be a definite burrower.
Like I said before, he seems healthy with normal poop and such, and all of his hides are secure (his warm dry hide being most secure). Bleh, I'm really at a loss here. Any thoughts that this is ok? His temps are now 90 on the warm end and 76 on the cool end.
Hello, dear! I just wanted to update that his shed went fine. He's eating a little weird, though. He'll eat one mealworm one day, four the next, poop, and then the cycle repeats. He's also still in his humid hide generally (unless I shoo him out of it to go use his warm hide). It also doesn't help that he seems to be a definite burrower.
Like I said before, he seems healthy with normal poop and such, and all of his hides are secure (his warm dry hide being most secure). Bleh, I'm really at a loss here. Any thoughts that this is ok? His temps are now 90 on the warm end and 76 on the cool end.
JessJohnson87
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Mine has decided, since shedding, that he likes to sleep with half his body in the moist hide and the other half on the tile, I've only seen him in his other 2 hides a few times. Today he decided to sleep curled up in kind of a ball in-between his moist and warm hide on the tile. Sometimes they go through a weird phase. Cooler temperatures outside can affect their eating, regardless of how the temperatures are inside of the tank. Its natural for them to not eat or not eat as much in the winter months. But since you're in Florida, I'm sure your temperatures are still consistently warmer than they have been here. Just keep offering food, eventually he will eat more. You could try going off food for a day and trying the next to see if that will entice him to eat more at a time. Mealworms have more chitin and can sometimes take a little longer to digest, Ethan with Riverside Reptiles did a write up in this subforum on mealworms as a feeder.
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...-/41492-feeding-mealworms-leopard-geckos.html
It is always good to give a variety of insects. I know you said roaches and crickets are out of the question, try to find phoenix/reptiworm/calciworms, hornworms or even silkworms and see if those help. You could throw a waxworm or two in there maybe once a week as sort of a treat but not as a regular feeder since they are basically junk food.
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...-/41492-feeding-mealworms-leopard-geckos.html
It is always good to give a variety of insects. I know you said roaches and crickets are out of the question, try to find phoenix/reptiworm/calciworms, hornworms or even silkworms and see if those help. You could throw a waxworm or two in there maybe once a week as sort of a treat but not as a regular feeder since they are basically junk food.
OK I'll give that a shot. My biggest concern was that he did 2 poops that were kind of dry and shriveled up, and then one large moist one. And now I'm lucky to get him to eat one mealworm a day! Again, no cloudy eyes, mucus, or anything like that (he'd quite spry when I take him out), and I don't see any bulges in his stomach to suggest impaction... Do you think it could be too much calcium? Should I only dust my feeders like every other day or so? I'm probably worrying too much about this, but I noticed he feels a little lighter than normal. Ugh, new parent worries, I suppose.
Thanks again for all the help, dear.
(P.S. That link leads to a page that doesn't exist anymore. I'd notify the administrator/whoever posted it).
Thanks again for all the help, dear.
(P.S. That link leads to a page that doesn't exist anymore. I'd notify the administrator/whoever posted it).
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JessJohnson87
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The poop will shrivel up and dry out over night. So long as its still moist and doesn't have a funny color or odor, it's fine. Not sure about the dusting for a juvenile, I dust once a week but I also gut-load my roaches with bearded dragon food 24/7 so there is no need for more frequent dusting. Too much calcium is never a bad thing, its the D3 that can cause toxicity in higher levels. You can try every other feedings with the dusting, I'm going to be picking up some Repashy Calcium Plus soon and switching to that, since its calcium and a multivitamin in one. Shane (Zux) got some for his leo Bell and she loves it. She could be bored with the mealworms, sometimes they get like that. Geckos can be quirky and go through phases, maybe this is just a phase and she will snap out of it at some point.
Oh and I just noticed that link doesn't work anymore after you said something, it was working one day last week when I went to look at it. Who knows :scratchhead:
Oh and I just noticed that link doesn't work anymore after you said something, it was working one day last week when I went to look at it. Who knows :scratchhead:
Meh, it's the interwebs. What can you really do? I appreciate it, though; it seemed like an interesting read! XP
And again, thank you so much for the suggestions. When I first got him, it took me a week and a half or so to get him to eat, and once he was eating he pigged out on his mealworms around 10-12 a day. I suppose he could just be pouting at me for replacing his moss with paper towels during his shed (he's back to moss and seems happier) and be on a hunger strike. It just feels weird with him not eating as he normally does; I almost feel like I'm starving him. But like you said, it's probably just a phase. I'll just offer food every other day and see if I can coax him to eat. I'll try tracking down other foods near me.
And again, thank you so much for the suggestions. When I first got him, it took me a week and a half or so to get him to eat, and once he was eating he pigged out on his mealworms around 10-12 a day. I suppose he could just be pouting at me for replacing his moss with paper towels during his shed (he's back to moss and seems happier) and be on a hunger strike. It just feels weird with him not eating as he normally does; I almost feel like I'm starving him. But like you said, it's probably just a phase. I'll just offer food every other day and see if I can coax him to eat. I'll try tracking down other foods near me.
amsdadtodd
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for a less than full grown leo, he should really be eating more than just a few mealworms. I know you said crickets and roaches are out of the question, but he really needs something more substantial than a diet of just mealworms. Can you post a picture of him?
Todd
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He normally eats more than this. He generally eats 10-12 mealworms a day, but started eating less a few days before his shed. He shed on the 26th, and has been eating very lightly since. I spoke to a professional breeder I found near me, and she said to give it until Friday. If he's not eating more by then, I could bring him to her, she'd take a look at him to maybe see if I missed something. If she can't see anything, she'll recommend me to a local herp vet she knows to have him take a look.
Either way, he's going to a herp vet if he's not eating better by Friday, because the last poop he took was a lighter color brown and was more watery than I normally see them.
And here's that pic. He's not very fond of the camera, so forgive him not looking at it. I can try to get a different picture, but I really don't want to stress him out more than I have to.
He normally eats more than this. He generally eats 10-12 mealworms a day, but started eating less a few days before his shed. He shed on the 26th, and has been eating very lightly since. I spoke to a professional breeder I found near me, and she said to give it until Friday. If he's not eating more by then, I could bring him to her, she'd take a look at him to maybe see if I missed something. If she can't see anything, she'll recommend me to a local herp vet she knows to have him take a look.
Either way, he's going to a herp vet if he's not eating better by Friday, because the last poop he took was a lighter color brown and was more watery than I normally see them.
And here's that pic. He's not very fond of the camera, so forgive him not looking at it. I can try to get a different picture, but I really don't want to stress him out more than I have to.
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JessJohnson87
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He looks healthy but the watery/light brown poop may be a sign of a possible problem. Don't toss the poops, put them in a sandwich/snack bag and put it in the fridge, more poop the better to do a really through fecal exam. Don't wrap them in paper towels or toilet paper either. If you have a glove, pick them up once they've dried and throw it in the bag. I picked up fresh poop the other night and boy did it feel weird and smell :shock:
Oh and he's very pretty :biggrin:
Oh and he's very pretty :biggrin:
Thank you, dear! Lore, his "sister" (an older leopard gecko my brother convinced my parents to get but I wound up with) is very pretty, too. Granted, I have no idea what morph she exactly IS, but still. 8 inches long, and eats 15-20 mealworms a day. No problems with this little lady! ...well, aside from getting her to hold still long enough for a picture. I'm still working on that. She's very inquisitive and is in everything the second she's out of her enclosure, but I love her curious self to bits.
And I wish I'd thought to do that. I normally spot clean his tank for poop the second I spot it and throw it out. It stank a bit more than usual, so I got it out of his tank ASAP and threw it away. He hasn't pooped since. GAH I feel like a moron! >_<" I hope he poops again soon, but sine he's not eating, I doubt it will happen.
And I wish I'd thought to do that. I normally spot clean his tank for poop the second I spot it and throw it out. It stank a bit more than usual, so I got it out of his tank ASAP and threw it away. He hasn't pooped since. GAH I feel like a moron! >_<" I hope he poops again soon, but sine he's not eating, I doubt it will happen.
JessJohnson87
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You can always take a picture of Lore and start a thread in the morphs section, someone will chime in eventually and tell you what she could be. I'm no expert but the little guy looks a lot like this one:
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...nd-genetics-/79728-bell-albino-mack-snow.html
Give granted his colors will change the older he gets.
As far as poops go, it's no big deal, hopefully he will poop again, even if it's just a little bit. I worked in nursing homes so if poop doesn't look or smell right, I save it. Sucks geckos aren't like dogs where they can get a sample at the vet's office.....
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...nd-genetics-/79728-bell-albino-mack-snow.html
Give granted his colors will change the older he gets.
As far as poops go, it's no big deal, hopefully he will poop again, even if it's just a little bit. I worked in nursing homes so if poop doesn't look or smell right, I save it. Sucks geckos aren't like dogs where they can get a sample at the vet's office.....
amsdadtodd
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He certainly doesn't look too skinny or anything, so hopefully it's just a temporary glitch that he'll bounce back from.
Todd
Todd
Yeah, I work in a lab. If something smells off, it's bad and needs to be sterilized and pitched ASAP. Otherwise, we could wind up with some sort of super-bacteria running around! XD (OK not really funny when you think about it, but still). I hope he poops for me soon. By now, that poop would probably be too desiccated to be useful even if I found it in the trash somehow.
And huh, that does look an awful lot like Lavi... I just assumed Albino Tremper. I supposed we'll have to wait and see! Heck, the breeder I'm going to talk to might be able to tell me.
And huh, that does look an awful lot like Lavi... I just assumed Albino Tremper. I supposed we'll have to wait and see! Heck, the breeder I'm going to talk to might be able to tell me.
That's what I'm hoping for, [MENTION=51448]amsdadtodd[/MENTION]. For all I know, he could have had parasites when I go him from Petsmart and they're just now manifesting... though I REALLY hope that's not the case. By the way, that thread you posted about the females slowing down their eating when ovulating was SUPER informative. I have a girl as well, so it's nice to know what might be coming up/what to be on the lookout for.
And thanks again for all the help everyone! I really appreciate all the tips, pointers, and support I've been getting. I'll definitely keep everyone updated on Lavi's status, and eventually will get a non-blurry photo of Lore to show everyone.
And thanks again for all the help everyone! I really appreciate all the tips, pointers, and support I've been getting. I'll definitely keep everyone updated on Lavi's status, and eventually will get a non-blurry photo of Lore to show everyone.
HEY GUYS I SAW HIM EAT TODAY! Granted, it was only one mealworm, but here's the thing: the mealworm he ate was freshly molted (I could tell because the molt was in his dish, which was promptly removed). He didn't touch the other ones I offered him! Any ideas just what might be going on here?
amsdadtodd
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Is the color of the dish one which provides more contrast with the freshly molted mealworm? I've noticed when my girls are chasing crickets, they easily lose them on dark colored tiles, but readily spot them on light ones, or on white paper towels.
Todd
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I thought about that, but the molted mealworms are only slightly lighter than the ones that aren't. Even mealworms that aren't molted pop really well against the bowl. The bowl itself is a dark brown, and the mealworms stand out against it very well, especially when dusted with the herp-cal and herpivite. I can't imagine this would be the problem, since he had no issue tracking them down before.
He's going in tomorrow (I was able to scootch the appointment date up a bit) to get looked at, so we'll know then.
He's going in tomorrow (I was able to scootch the appointment date up a bit) to get looked at, so we'll know then.
JessJohnson87
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This is the dish I use for worms. It's not good as escape proof but he can see them easily to gobble them up.