Missing fingers - Need some advice

[Elizabeth Freer]

Ok. Thank You. I will try it. These red spots dont moving. i will try make a photo with these.

Do you think the spots we thought were mites, were actually NOT mites at all? Maybe those spots were just skin spots?

Sorry for long time answer. I was thinking a lot about the ideas and i decided i will waiting what happen because i didint want to hurt her bcause she is very small and fast i didnt want squeeze with my fingers. One day she begin dropped her skin, and after she eaten very fast and the mites number has begin reduced. I ordered calcium with d3 (bcause i cant mount uv lamp) and i bought multivitamine. Now she is very happy. All day jumping on the walls, no mites all mites dissapeared, and the lost fingers on the front left leg has begin grow dont slide on the glass anymore. If you check her neck on the picstures she have calcium reserve. It was my aim. I think she is very healthy yet. I did my best for her.
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No worries at all.
WOW! Your small gecko has made an excellent recovery!!! :banana:, Bali! She must really love the home you made!

What amazes me is your report that the fingers on the left front foot have begun to grow again. I've never heard of that before!

Are these the best photos you posted to show before and now after? If you have better photos, please share.

BEFORE:



AFTER:

 

[Bali8888]

I was too happy. Two days after i sent the post she started behave strangely. She didnt want to eat, only a haf worm. I didnt worryed bcause i thinked her stomack is full. She wasnt too active, and yesterday i was very frightened. When i arrived at home she were on her favorite place and she didnt want to eat again and dont moved too much. After a few ours i see her legs jerking and her chest expanding after the air. Her colour was very bright green. My girlfriend thinked first she is happy but i know her. Such a color is used to be asleep. We decided moving from the terrarium and when she want to touch her she almost dropped on the ground. She hanged with her back legs and coldnt cordinate her front legs only jerked. Finally i moved in a aquarium. She is better now but dont want to eat yet. I didnt understand what was that. 1. Now very hot in my country. 29 celsius in my room (30 celsius in the terrarium lower side) and maybe the oxigen left in the terrarium. 2. I cleaned the glass with a little bit vinegared paper. Maybe it poisened her. But i cleaned it before too and it was ok. 3. She was stressed bcause i sit almost front of her. But i dont understand bcause before she alwasy see what am i doing. She intrested about me. 4. Mold in my terrarium. I see couple small place but i dont smell. I dont understand. She were much more helthy as i bought, and ething ruined within 2 days. I hope she will be fine. She is a fighter. I dont wanna lost her.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I was too happy. Two days after i sent the post she started behave strangely. She didnt want to eat, only a haf worm. I didnt worryed bcause i thinked her stomack is full. She wasnt too active, and yesterday i was very frightened. When i arrived at home she were on her favorite place and she didnt want to eat again and dont moved too much. After a few ours i see her legs jerking and her chest expanding after the air. Her colour was very bright green. My girlfriend thinked first she is happy but i know her. Such a color is used to be asleep. We decided moving from the terrarium and when she want to touch her she almost dropped on the ground. She hanged with her back legs and coldnt cordinate her front legs only jerked. Finally i moved in a aquarium. She is better now but dont want to eat yet. I didnt understand what was that. 1. Now very hot in my country. 29 celsius in my room (30 celsius in the terrarium lower side) and maybe the oxigen left in the terrarium. 2. I cleaned the glass with a little bit vinegared paper. Maybe it poisened her. But i cleaned it before too and it was ok. 3. She was stressed bcause i sit almost front of her. But i dont understand bcause before she alwasy see what am i doing. She intrested about me. 4. Mold in my terrarium. I see couple small place but i dont smell. I dont understand. She were much more helthy as i bought, and ething ruined within 2 days. I hope she will be fine. She is a fighter. I dont wanna lost her.

1. ***Please share the exact name and type of powdered supplements you bought.
2. ***How often are you dusting her prey with those supplements?
3. Does her problem look like seizures?
4. Maybe she's having blood calcium crash seizures from too little calcium carbonate in her diet. (I know you shared calcium sacs near her throat.)
5. Could she be "suffering" from excessive heat?
6. What were her high temps before your heat wave?
7. Have you a way to keep her cooler? Heat rises. How much cooler it would be if you placed her enclosure on the floor?
8. Let vinegar air out a few hours before replacing the gecko. I don't know what kind of problems vinegar might cause if one doesn't air out vinegar's smell.
9. Does her enclosure have a layered substrate? Then it's easy to "water" the substrate through the soil without causing mold.
   • bottom layer = hydroballs
   • middle layer = weedblocker cloth
   • top layer = fertilizer free soil

 

[Bali8888]

ExoTerra Calcium + D3 and i cover the insects every feeding time. Maybe it was a seizures. I dont know. His behavior shows it was a result for something that happened slowly. Avarage temperatures was 26.5-28 Celsius on lower area. I have a pc cooler in front of grille. I turn on for 3-5 min every time after i spay with water. My first layer hydroballs->1,5cm gravel-> 5cm coconout and potting soil mix.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

ExoTerra Calcium + D3 and i cover the insects every feeding time. Maybe it was a seizures. I dont know. His behavior shows it was a result for something that happened slowly. Avarage temperatures was 26.5-28 Celsius on lower area. I have a pc cooler in front of grille. I turn on for 3-5 min every time after i spay with water. My first layer hydroballs->1,5cm gravel-> 5cm coconout and potting soil mix.

1. ***When did you start using Exo Terra calcium + D3? According to my research, your Exo Terra product may only contain 65 mg/kg (??) of vitamin D3. What does your label show?
2. How many times per week do you feed her?
3. Could you buy Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 instead?
4. ***Have you measured the temperature right after you spray and use a grille/fan for 3-5 minutes?
5. What is the temperature then?
6. Weedblocker cloth is a porous fabric.
   

COMPARISONS:

Zoo Med Repti Calcium with vitamin D3---phosphorus-free ***Highly RECOMMENDED***
38%-43% precipitated calcium carbonate
Vitamin D3: 22,907 IU/kg, 10,390 IU/pound

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Exo Terra's Calcium with vitamin D3---phosphorus-free...... Contains dextrose (sugar) & oyster shell flour

Click: Exo Terra : Calcium + D3 / Calcium + D3 Powder Supplement

1. North America
INGREDIENTS:
Calcium carbonate, oyster shell flour, dextrose, Vitamin D3 supplement.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

• Moisture (max) 12.0%
• Calcium (min) 35.0%
• Calcium (max) 37.0%
• Vitamin D3 14,740 IU/lb (XXX IU/kg)

2. EU
INGREDIENTS:
Calcium carbonate (35%), ground oyster shells, salt.
Contains EU permitted additives.

EU TYPICAL ANALYSIS:

• Calcium 35%
• Vitamin D3 65 mg/kg

 

[Bali8888]

I starated using the ca+d3 powder from may 10. I think more and more she got too much calcium. She reserved too much on her neck within too little time. I feed her every second day two times and after i skip three days. The last time when i feeded her i had a bad feeling. I didnt give her powder, bacause i felt she get too much. I thinking about temperatures too. She didnt crushed when i bought her but she were into a small box, with couple little hole, and the temeratures was about 28 celsius in the market hall. I felt all my tips wasnt too strong what i listed before. She dont want to eat yet. I worried about her. Now i using uv lamp, and i will moving outdoor for sunbath maybe it will help to process the calcium. (My girlfriend have two leopard gecko, and a madagascar day gecko. She dont using any calcium and she have healthy animals. After that, I'm not sure it's important to give calcium so many times as couple article write.)

 

[Bali8888]

I put her on the sun for 3 minute (really 3 not more) after i realized she colour has changed for pale. Purple, black and white. She started jerking and i think almost died. Suddenly i put a cover on the aquarium side. She ran immediately on that area. And she became ok. I dont understand what was that? I removed the aquarium top glass. Almost braked the side glass but i didnt care anymore. I setup another grill. Now the uv rays can diffuse across and i will make a cover on her favorite place. So i exclude the d3 stress and oxigen. That all what can i do.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I put her on the sun for 3 minute (really 3 not more) after i realized she colour has changed for pale. Purple, black and white. She started jerking and i think almost died. Suddenly i put a cover on the aquarium side. She ran immediately on that area. And she became ok. I dont understand what was that? I removed the aquarium top glass. Almost braked the side glass but i didnt care anymore. I setup another grill. Now the uv rays can diffuse across and i will make a cover on her favorite place. So i exclude the d3 stress and oxigen. That all what can i do.

Please look at the bottle label for the amount of vitamin D3 in your powdered supplement. That is usually listed in IU/kg or IU/pound. (IU = International Units)

She is having seizures. Seizures come and go, until they don't any more.

UVB won't penetrate glass. Screen/mesh reduces UVB rays up to 50%.

 

[Bali8888]

Vitamin D3 14,740 IU/lb , Vitamin D3 65 mg/kg as you write.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Vitamin D3 14,740 IU/lb , Vitamin D3 65 mg/kg as you write.

I don't understand why it says 65 mg/kg.

I wonder if that is a mistake.

A correct way to list ingredients would be 65 IU/kg. But I'm not sure that is correct either.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I starated using the ca+d3 powder from may 10. I think more and more she got too much calcium. She reserved too much on her neck within too little time. I feed her every second day two times and after i skip three days. The last time when i feeded her i had a bad feeling. I didnt give her powder, bacause i felt she get too much. I thinking about temperatures too. She didnt crushed when i bought her but she were into a small box, with couple little hole, and the temeratures was about 28 celsius in the market hall. I felt all my tips wasnt too strong what i listed before. She dont want to eat yet. I worried about her. Now i using uv lamp, and i will moving outdoor for sunbath maybe it will help to process the calcium. (My girlfriend have two leopard gecko, and a madagascar day gecko. She dont using any calcium and she have healthy animals. After that, I'm not sure it's important to give calcium so many times as couple article write.)

1. When did you start offering UVB through the mesh screen top to your day gecko?
2. What strength UVB?
3. What brand is that bulb or tube? Exo Terra, Zoo Med, other?
4. ***A small amount of weekly vitamin D3 (or UVB) is required to process the powdered calcium each gecko gets via dusting. With NO vitamin D3 (or inadequate UVB), a gecko can't process calcium.
5. ***The "trick" is to find the right amount of powdered supplements and UVB.
6. Even with D3 (or UVB), some additional powdered calcium may be required when a gecko only eats insects!
7. One reason to use powdered calcium via light dusting is that insects naturally contain too much phosphorus. Lightly dusting insects with calcium rebalances their phosphorus content.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

(My girlfriend have two leopard gecko, and a madagascar day gecko. She dont using any calcium and she have healthy animals. After that, I'm not sure it's important to give calcium so many times as couple article write.)

I separated these replies for clarity. I also amended my reply.

Regarding your girlfriend's 2 leopard geckos and her madagascar day gecko.

1. Are each of those 3 geckos kept under UVB?
2. Do they "bask" or stick out body parts like a tail, a foot, or half a body right under the UVB on a regular basis?
3. How old are these geckos now?
4. Does she use a multivitamin for her leos and for her madagascar day gecko? Sometimes those multivitamins also contain healthy levels of calcium as well as the vitamins.
5. If so, what is the name of that multivitamin? Nutrobal multivitamins?
6. How long has she kept each gecko?
7. If your girlfriend feeds her madagascar day gecko a complete powdered diet, there is a chance it will be OK.
8. I don't think leopard geckos can survive LONG-TERM without calcium, D3 (or UVB), and some multivitamins.
9. What do you and your girlfriend feed the crickets your geckos eat? A huge part of feeding insects to geckos is the diet insects are fed prior to being fed off to a gecko -- any gecko.

I have kept 3 Phelsuma barbouri (a medium small size day gecko) for about 16 years. Each is housed separately in enclosures that are only 12 inches high. That's because Phelsuma barbouri require horizontally oriented enclosures! Each has a Zoo Med ReptiSun 5.0 UVB T8 tube that I change every year. Since they are adults, they are usually fed 2x per week. At each feeding they get 2 half grown crickets. One week all the crickets are plain (not dusted), because UVB is their D3 source. The next week 1 out of 2 crickets are lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3 at just one of their two feedings that week.

Leos kept without UVB get different amounts of supplements depending upon their ages. I have used Zoo Med supplements for years.

 

[Bali8888]

She has 6years old lepard geckos. She get an uvb lamp after buoght the madagascarian gecko and try it for leopard geckos but they hate it. They dont stay under the uvb lamp (dont ask tha watts and uvb/uva ratio i dont know). They live 6 year without uvb and any calcium, d3 powder. Eating mealworm and crickets. They breeding too. Female has 2 egg now. Madagascarian gecko a little less then one years old. Somtime he get uvb lights for 1-2 hour / day.

I started to using uvb for 2 days bcause i modified my terrarium. I have Arcadia ShadeDweller Mini T5 UVB Kit 7.0 8W. She is better maybe but dont want to eat yet.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

She has 6years old lepard geckos. She get an uvb lamp after buoght the madagascarian gecko and try it for leopard geckos but they hate it. They dont stay under the uvb lamp (dont ask tha watts and uvb/uva ratio i dont know). They live 6 year without uvb and any calcium, d3 powder. Eating mealworm and crickets. They breeding too. Female has 2 egg now. Madagascarian gecko a little less then one years old. Somtime he get uvb lights for 1-2 hour / day.

I started to using uvb for 2 days bcause i modified my terrarium. I have Arcadia ShadeDweller Mini T5 UVB Kit 7.0 8W. She is better maybe but dont want to eat yet.

I hope that day by day your wee day gecko gets stronger and that soon she'll feel like eating once again! I appreciate everything you've told us, Bali.

Good wishes for your girlfriend's geckos, too.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Day geckos usually require a little more UVB than leopard geckos do. I apologize if you already figured that out.

With a proper photo regulation setup, reptiles will have access to a variety of zones.

Please click this link for Zoo Med's lighting chart. This chart shows the different Ferguson Zones of commonly kept reptiles. Both leopard geckos and day geckos require Shade and Partial Sun. Leopard geckos are in Zone 1 (0.4 - 0.7 UVI). Day geckos are in Zone 2 (0.7-1.0 UVI) and require a little more UVB.

Click: https://zoomed.com/wp-content/uploads/Choosing-Correct-UVB-Lamp-2018-07.pdf​