Urgent! U.henkeli problems (help me please )

[inguma]

Hello,

7 months ago I bought a U.henkeli so far to state doing well, he did not eat much but ate, also made several moults smoothly, Today I found lying on the ground, it looks like the legs of back did not have the strength to hold on, also has the tip of the tail a little crooked, the matter is that correct humidity and temperature, which may be happening, I think he will die

Pictures

 

[nater]

it looks like the legs of back did not have the strength to hold on

the matter is that correct humidity and temperature, which may be happening,

Can you try to say these in a different way? I'm having difficulty understanding.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Excellent photos, thanks!!!

What type of supplementation (phosphorous-free calcium with D3 and vitamins) have you been using?

Hoping that some Uroplatus pros will chime in.

 

[inguma]

Can you try to say these in a different way? I'm having difficulty understanding.

Sorry for my bad English :sad:

the not well attached on the surface, falls to the ground often seems as if not he had strength, moisture and temperature is correct.

 

[inguma]

Excellent photos, thanks!!!

What type of supplementation (phosphorous-free calcium with D3 and vitamins) have you been using?

Hoping that some Uroplatus pros will chime in.

Hello Elizabeth,

I use Repti Calcium without D3 (Zoo Med)

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Hello Elizabeth,

I use Repti Calcium without D3 (Zoo Med)

I have never kept Uros, but for other geckos phosphorous-free calcium with D3 is used. D3 helps the absorption of calcium just like it does for us. Phosphorous interferes with calcium absorption. We strive for no more than a 2:1 calcium-to-phosphorous ratio. That's why we lightly dust the prey 2-3x weekly.

I wonder whether your Uro henkeli could be showing signs of metabolic bone disease?

If calcium is the issue, there is a liquid calcium supplement we can buy in the USA called calcium glubionate. Also goes under the name neocalglucon.

 

[nater]

Sorry for my bad English :sad:

We do the best we can. If nothing else your english is far better than my spanish. I don't want to insult you but babelfish might be of some help. Yahoo! Babel Fish - Text Translation and Web Page Translation

the not well attached on the surface, falls to the ground often seems as if not he had strength

His back legs aren't able to hold on when he climbs?

moisture and temperature is correct.

I believe you, but we may as well rule it out with certainty. What are the current temperature and humidity?

 

[nater]

I wonder whether your Uro henkeli could be showing signs of metabolic bone disease?

That was my first guess as well. I suppose the other usual suspects are impaction or injury. If it seems like there's rear leg paralysis I'm going to tend towards impaction.

 

[inguma]

I have never kept Uros, but for other geckos phosphorous-free calcium with D3 is used. D3 helps the absorption of calcium just like it does for us. Phosphorous interferes with calcium absorption. We strive for no more than a 2:1 calcium-to-phosphorous ratio. That's why we lightly dust the prey 2-3x weekly.

Then use the vitamins are not good ?

I wonder whether your Uro henkeli could be showing signs of metabolic bone disease?

I dont no exactly

If calcium is the issue, there is a liquid calcium supplement we can buy in the USA called calcium glubionate. Also goes under the name neocalglucon.

The problem is that I'm from Spain, not if I can find this product

 

[inguma]

We do the best we can. If nothing else your english is far better than my spanish. I don't want to insult you but babelfish might be of some help. Yahoo! Babel Fish - Text Translation and Web Page Translation

thanks,I used Google Text translation

His back legs aren't able to hold on when he climbs?

No


I believe you, but we may as well rule it out with certainty. What are the current temperature and humidity?

Temperature about 25º Day 20º Night and Humidity around 70%

 

[inguma]

If it seems like there's rear leg paralysis I'm going to tend towards impaction.

Yes,very similar to paralysis

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

The problem is that I'm from Spain, not if I can find this product

Do a Google search for neocalglucon/calcium glubionate. In the USA we can get that at a pharmacy. Sometimes it has to be special ordered.

Also Google metabolic bone disease so that you can see the symptoms...maybe even in Spanish.

Some gecko-keepers use vitamins for their geckos more than others do. There is always the danger of overdosing vitamins, especially vitamin A but also vitamin D3. I use vitamins sparingly. But I am a firm believer in phosphorous-free calcium with D3 and use it as often as recommended.

 

[nater]

Temperature about 25º Day 20º Night and Humidity around 70%

Ok.

Has he been eating? Has he been pooping?

 

[inguma]

Do a Google search for neocalglucon/calcium glubionate. In the USA we can get that at a pharmacy. Sometimes it has to be special ordered.

Also Google metabolic bone disease so that you can see the symptoms...maybe even in Spanish.

thanks Elizabeth,I've already heard about this disease


Some gecko-keepers use vitamins for their geckos more than others do. There is always the danger of overdosing vitamins, especially vitamin A but also vitamin D3. I use vitamins sparingly. But I am a firm believer in phosphorous-free calcium with D3 and use it as often as recommended.

,in this case I think the problem is not due to an overdose and I do not usually give much calcium with D3

 

[inguma]

Ok.

Has he been eating? Has he been pooping?

Yes,but did not eat much, also defecate normally and have not seen parasites in their feces :roll:

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Metabolic Bone Disease...Melissa Kaplan

Identification and treatment of metabolic bone disease

 

[nater]

Yes,but did not eat much, also defecate normally and have not seen parasites in their feces :roll:

Now I'm leaning back towards MBD.

May as well ask though... What kind of substrate are you using and what have you been feeding? Does the stomach feel swollen? Has he been drinking?

Can we get a picture of the calcium sacs? What kind of lighting are you using? Do the legs look swollen compared to normal? Arched spine?

Sorry, internet went down for a bit.

 

[elchopchop]

You mentioned that he has shed a couple of times before and I wonder if he is due to shed again? You mentioned he has recently been off his food which is normal when about to shed. Mine sometimes have problems clinging to glass and smooth surfaces as thier skin loosens around their toes and feet so assuming it is not MBD, this could explain the loss of grip. Can he walk? Is there any kinks or curvature of the spine? Hope he gets better...

 

[inguma]

Identification and treatment of metabolic bone disease

Thank you so much for the link Elizabeth

 

[inguma]

Now I'm leaning back towards MBD.

May as well ask though... What kind of substrate are you using and what have you been feeding? Does the stomach feel swollen? Has he been drinking?

Can we get a picture of the calcium sacs? What kind of lighting are you using? Do the legs look swollen compared to normal? Arched spine?

Sorry, internet went down for a bit.

1- I used Tropical Terrarium Substrate (Plantation Soil Exo-Terra)
2- Feeding only crickets (Acheta domestica)
3- Stomach no swollen
4- Drinking yes
5- Sorry on the moment no have pictures of calcium sacks
6- Lighting only Repti Glo (Exo Terra 2.0)
7- Legs no swollen,Arched spine yes one little