cricket4u
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I don't understand why people say that. I just tested it myself. 93 on ground temp- I placed the other thermometer only 2 inches above for floor and it's only 76 degrees on the warm end.:?
Leopard Geckos Daenerys & Drogo: changing substrate and sleep question
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I don't understand why people say that. I just tested it myself. 93 on ground temp- I placed the other thermometer only 2 inches above for floor and it's only 76 degrees on the warm end.:?
Elizabeth Freer
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Thanks!
perfectlyflawed36
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Okay, so I have a zoo-med digital thermometer, it says it's 80 about 2 inches off the ground, then 77 about 6 inches off the ground, her warm hide is 92 now. I've seen her be A LOT more active, she goes and sits on top of her rock, and also sits in the middle just looking around. She does spend most of her time in her warm hide cuddled up though.
I'll probably get a heating lamp soon, as soon as I get Drogo a bigger tank, because that's my next priority.
I'll probably get a heating lamp soon, as soon as I get Drogo a bigger tank, because that's my next priority.
cricket4u
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Unfortunately I tried that Zoo med digital thermometer years ago and it was unreliable at times. It end up in the trash. The small yellow one I'm guessing.
I guess we will have to just pray it's accurate.I'm happy to hear she is moving around. It sounds as though she is exploring her new home.
perfectlyflawed36
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Hm, no mine is black.
I'd say there's been some improvement, he is very lively and chases the crickets around. I just love watching him.
I decided to try out a couple crickets for her, and she ate three or four but then lost interest. She did chase them a little, but if they moved out of range she didn't care to chase after it. I'd say she's doing better though, the temps are in a good range and she moves about.
Drogo stares at me a lot, I'll look over and his head is lifted high and he's just staring at me lol. It's kind of creepy sometimes but cute.
I'd say there's been some improvement, he is very lively and chases the crickets around. I just love watching him.
I decided to try out a couple crickets for her, and she ate three or four but then lost interest. She did chase them a little, but if they moved out of range she didn't care to chase after it. I'd say she's doing better though, the temps are in a good range and she moves about.
Drogo stares at me a lot, I'll look over and his head is lifted high and he's just staring at me lol. It's kind of creepy sometimes but cute.
cricket4u
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Chances are they are both vitamin deficient if neither were provided multivitamins. Did you dust her crickets with calcium, d3 and mvi? Keep in mind, d3 and multivitamins only 2 x a week. They do not need to eat on a daily basis. Every other day is enough at this stage. Hopefully she will start feeling better with the supplements.
For the female I would provide a larger humidity container with more moss (I think that is what your using). Don't forget to darken the lid for security reasons.
I see now why I find it awkward. If you look at the caresheet, you will get a better idea of how to make it so she can actually lay on the moss oppose to walking face into the moss.:biggrin: A deeper and maybe the opening in a higher location will help. You can probably find a darker lid instead of taping it with electrical tape which you can't clean.
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perfectlyflawed36
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Yup, they've been dusted.
I knew the thing was awkward, it just didn't look right but that's the only thing I have for a moist hide, I have nothing else bigger so I will have to go and buy something.
So, I noticed this tonight
under her eye there's a white piece of skin? I assume, I don't know. I've seen her licking her eye a a couple times and she keeps that one closed more often than the other one. Any ideas?
I knew the thing was awkward, it just didn't look right but that's the only thing I have for a moist hide, I have nothing else bigger so I will have to go and buy something.
So, I noticed this tonight
under her eye there's a white piece of skin? I assume, I don't know. I've seen her licking her eye a a couple times and she keeps that one closed more often than the other one. Any ideas?
cricket4u
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Yes, it's retained shed. She really needs humidity. It looks like it's starting to break up right underneath her eyelid and it might fall off if she keeps licking it. I would really hate to pull her out of her enclosure right now. If it's not off by tomorrow, you can give her a 10-15 minute soak in warm water.
Has she even walked into her humidity hide at all? Maybe scoop her up and place her inside through the opening.
Edit: I know you are wondering why if it's the eye would I soak her?:biggrin: I figured kill 2 birds with one stone. I was thinking some hydration may do her some good as well, but in order to keep stress at a minimum, it's best just moisten that eye.
Has she even walked into her humidity hide at all? Maybe scoop her up and place her inside through the opening.
Edit: I know you are wondering why if it's the eye would I soak her?:biggrin: I figured kill 2 birds with one stone. I was thinking some hydration may do her some good as well, but in order to keep stress at a minimum, it's best just moisten that eye.
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perfectlyflawed36
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She's walked into it, then turned around. I'm actually gonna be out tonight so I'm going to pick up a bigger hide for her.
I also might buy him his bagger tank tonight if I get to the mall in time. I found a tank on Craiglist, the guy seemed motivated to sell it (even has a UTH with it) but then he just stopped replying to me =( so I might just have to spend another 100 on a tank and heating pad.
I also might buy him his bagger tank tonight if I get to the mall in time. I found a tank on Craiglist, the guy seemed motivated to sell it (even has a UTH with it) but then he just stopped replying to me =( so I might just have to spend another 100 on a tank and heating pad.
Elizabeth Freer
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Yup, they've been dusted.
I knew the thing was awkward, it just didn't look right but that's the only thing I have for a moist hide, I have nothing else bigger so I will have to go and buy something.
So, I noticed this tonight
under her eye there's a white piece of skin? I assume, I don't know. I've seen her licking her eye a a couple times and she keeps that one closed more often than the other one. Any ideas?
Check out the "attached" posts which follow the leo guidelines right there in my signature. There are several different methods to handle stuck shed. Since it is near her eye, dampen the area with a normal saline solution.
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perfectlyflawed36
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Got a bigger container, I'll post pictures later.
She's just very skittish, and won't usually even let me by her. If she keeps licking her eye should it come off by itself if I give her a good moist hide? I'd rather not stress her out >_<
She's just very skittish, and won't usually even let me by her. If she keeps licking her eye should it come off by itself if I give her a good moist hide? I'd rather not stress her out >_<
cricket4u
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If it does not come off by tomorrow morning buy a bottle of sterile saline eye wash. Not the contact lens cleaner. when dealing with the eye it's best to keep things sterile. Just direct a stream right into the eye once or twice and it should loosen and fall off.
perfectlyflawed36
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So I woke up early morning and saw she was using her moist hide!!! Yay! It looks like the skin is loosening as well. I had to add a bunch more layers to the warm side because it was getting hot, so I finally have the temps perfect. Now I need to buy him a tank
cricket4u
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Great! can't wait to see him in his new enclosure as well. :cheer:
Elizabeth Freer
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Sterile gauze pad for the normal saline eye wash solution?
cricket4u ~ I had an idea the other night. Since it is best to keep everything sterile because the shed is near the eye, what would you think about saturating a sterile gauze pad, say a 2 inch x 2 inch, with the sterile saline solution and gently holding that against the area where the shed remains for a few minutes?
cricket4u ~ I had an idea the other night. Since it is best to keep everything sterile because the shed is near the eye, what would you think about saturating a sterile gauze pad, say a 2 inch x 2 inch, with the sterile saline solution and gently holding that against the area where the shed remains for a few minutes?
cricket4u
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It would be fine if the gecko is going to stay still and allow it. A stream works really well without touching the eye. Just a quick squirt and at first it's a surprise to them, but then they start blinking and almost look relieved. Unless you have a gecko that will actually sit there with a pirate patch:biggrin:, I would be concerned and shocked!
Elizabeth Freer
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"cricket4u ~ I had an idea the other night. Since it is best to keep everything sterile because the shed is near the eye, what would you think about saturating a sterile gauze pad, say a 2 inch x 2 inch, with the sterile saline solution and gently holding that against the area where the shed remains for a few minutes?"
cricket4u:
"It would be fine if the gecko is going to stay still and allow it. A stream works really well without touching the eye. Just a quick squirt and at first it's a surprise to them, but then they start blinking and almost look relieved. Unless you have a gecko that will actually sit there with a pirate patch, I would be concerned and shocked!"
My thinking is that a saturated patch could be held in place and maybe be more effective than a stream of saline solution?
Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer
"cricket4u ~ I had an idea the other night. Since it is best to keep everything sterile because the shed is near the eye, what would you think about saturating a sterile gauze pad, say a 2 inch x 2 inch, with the sterile saline solution and gently holding that against the area where the shed remains for a few minutes?"
cricket4u:
"It would be fine if the gecko is going to stay still and allow it. A stream works really well without touching the eye. Just a quick squirt and at first it's a surprise to them, but then they start blinking and almost look relieved. Unless you have a gecko that will actually sit there with a pirate patch, I would be concerned and shocked!"
My thinking is that a saturated patch could be held in place and maybe be more effective than a stream of saline solution?
cricket4u
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I guess it would depend on how bad the shed is and the location. If you had to rub around the eye, I would definitely prefer a sterile gauze over a Q-TIP which can hit them in the eye if they are moving a lot. At least the gauze is sterile and won't leave cotton fuzz behind.
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perfectlyflawed36
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There is no way she's going to let me hold a gauze to her eye, she'd probably freak out and drop her tail, just by the way she acts when I put my hand anywhere near her. She looks so much better I think though, the skin is coming off, she's spent a lot of time in her moist hide and she is walking a lot taller and higher off the ground today. I'm pleased with the improvement for sure.
I'm excited to get Drogo is tank tomorrow, he likes to move around a lot and I think he'll welcome the space. I'm definitely going to get them both more things for their tank, like leaves and more rocks to chill on top of. Thanks so much you two, I think things should be good from here out, if I need anything I'll post.
Also, I did like you mentioned awhile back and put paper on the sides to give them both some cover, but Drogo absolutely hated it, he's sit there and peek under neath it trying to look out, so finally I just took it off and now he sits there staring out watching things, it's too cute ^_^
I'm excited to get Drogo is tank tomorrow, he likes to move around a lot and I think he'll welcome the space. I'm definitely going to get them both more things for their tank, like leaves and more rocks to chill on top of. Thanks so much you two, I think things should be good from here out, if I need anything I'll post.
Also, I did like you mentioned awhile back and put paper on the sides to give them both some cover, but Drogo absolutely hated it, he's sit there and peek under neath it trying to look out, so finally I just took it off and now he sits there staring out watching things, it's too cute ^_^
cricket4u
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So he is an outgoing type of guy! Do post pictures of them when you get a chance.