Leopard Geckos: new hatchlings...one with "YouTube" video left rear leg issues

[panthergecko]

Oh well I help the guy out when I get them but the pheonix worms are for my adult who eats them sometimes.
I think he eats less due to them being housed together.
When I get them I will seperate them.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

The diet should be mainly crickets. Add other feeders for variety. There is absolutely no reason to feed waxworms at all.

Don't buy a new feeder in bulk, say Phoenix worms or whatever, till your leos have tried them out. Some leos will take only one bite and that is it. Try silkworms...Leo Prince Ali really likes those.

I personally would not buy the leo with the leg problem.

Oh well I help the guy out when I get them but the pheonix worms are for my adult who eats them sometimes.
I think he eats less due to them being housed together.
When I get them I will seperate them.

Did you see my comment in post #20 on this thread? I would definitely not buy the gecko with the leg issues that looks thinner than the other one. Genetic problems? Injury? MBD?

 

[cricket4u]

Yes, i do see what your seeing and I almost want to be selfish and tell panthergecko please bring them home so that you can help them. That is a choice only you can make. Why 2 geckos in the same tub? Some of the roaches are too large for them. The roaches are not even dusted. One hide (a box), no humidity hide and so on.... If I was looking for a pet and I don't have the experience to deal with this situation, I would look the other way. Just please inform this person that those conditions are inappropriate. As a matter of fact, show him Elizabeth's caresheet please.

 

[panthergecko]

yep still bringing them home.maybe sator wednesday..
but they are being seperated until they are atleast 1 year.
I have the setups ready
the moist hides are prepared just need to be misted.
the hot hide and cool hide ready.
Big order of
mealworms
superworms
pheonix worms due to arrive tommorow.
I still don't see an issue with the back legs, I don't have an eye for that stuff.

I've only rehabilitated and rehomed 1 gecko.
-skinny from petstore on ECO-EARTH WITH BARK =[
got him fat and plump then gave to new owner with caresheets, sites to look at ect.

 

[cricket4u]

Watch the one in the left when he walks into the hide.

 

[panthergecko]

Oh ****
What is that?
Is that MBD?
Is that treatable?
Looks painful...
can I help him/her recover from that?

 

[cricket4u]

Oh ****
What is that?
Is that MBD?
Is that treatable?
Looks painful...
can I help him/her recover from that?

He needs a radiograph. I'm sorry, it takes more than just looking at a photo to diagnose.

 

[panthergecko]

Whats that?
A vet visit will be made when picked up.
I also pressed the breeder on the left guy.
and pushing the pick up date quicker.

 

[panthergecko]

Also reading your post over I don't have experience with Mbd just impaction experience,,
If I picked the little guy up would you guys help in bringing them up to par in care?

 

[panthergecko]

Also upon watching vid.
The back left Lef seems to be the trouble one.
Also going to ask for an update and DOB for them

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

He needs a radiograph. I'm sorry, it takes more than just looking at a photo to diagnose.

Whats that?
A vet visit will be made when picked up.
I also pressed the breeder on the left guy.
and pushing the pick up date quicker.

Also reading your post over I don't have experience with Mbd just impaction experience,,
If I picked the little guy up would you guys help in bringing them up to par in care?

Radiographs (x-rays) to determine bone density are expensive. Could be somewhat over $100 for both the vet visit and the x-rays! Should be checking out BOTH back legs. Maybe the breeder should just give him to you. Find out whether the breeder has been dusting prey with any calcium or vitamins containing vitamin D3.

Some people have huge hearts and would get both geckos and try their best. I do have 2 geckos under rehab right now, one is doing much better than the other. But would I get another gecko, known from the outset to be suffering, probaby not. My focus is to help GU members with their critters.

Besides, the breeder should know that something is wrong with that gecko.

 

[cricket4u]

Elizabeth you are lucky if that is all you pay for a radiograph. A radiograph alone can cost $175 and not including the exam. It may be on the more expensive side since he is located in NY. Can you afford these fees? I agree, bring all this up to the breeder and I am hoping he will have some compassion and give them to you free instead.

 

[panthergecko]

yeah I'm not getting them for free.
60 bucks for the pair.
I'll only have 120 after i buy them.
but I can look for a reasonably priced vet and borrow money.
* im only going to get the radiograph on the one with the leg problem

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

yeah I'm not getting them for free.
60 bucks for the pair.
I'll only have 120 after i buy them.
but I can look for a reasonably priced vet and borrow money.
* im only going to get the radiograph on the one with the leg problem

Tell me something, if you will. What did the breeder say about the gecko with the leg/foot issues and his supplementation program for both of these young leos?

 

[panthergecko]

I kind of don't want to ask him, since I don't want to risk not getting any of them.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Tell me something, if you will. What did the breeder say about the gecko with the leg/foot issues and his supplementation program for both of these young leos?

I kind of don't want to ask him, since I don't want to risk not getting any of them.

Just saying the breeder should not be selling that one. It only should be available as a rescue. If you don't ask, then he might think you are unaware that there even is an obvious problem.

Many places sell healthy baby leos! Are your plans to breed them?

 

[panthergecko]

No. I have no breeding plans, seeing things like this keep the breeding bug away.

I really want to help this gecko but I fear making anerror that can hurt them.

 

[Nucl3arxace]

These are two geckos im picking up soon.
I have everything setup for them but was wondering if a 22Lx13W would make an alright setup for these hatchlings.
(**TEMP-HOME**)
*NOTE: They will both have there own 22x13x8 tub/setup.

Also if you can help identify the morphs that would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe some names too, not very good at giving my pets there names.
EX: Snow my mack snow.

What morph is the second one.

 

[panthergecko]

Blizzard ...
Update picking them up in the am

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

No. I have no breeding plans, seeing things like this keep the breeding bug away.

I really want to help this gecko but I fear making anerror that can hurt them.

My other point is maybe the breeder does not know that he should be giving them calcium with D3. It is really unfortunate that you will need to spend way over $100 on some newly purchased leo. It would be so much better if you could use those same $ to give your leos top-notch habitats and care !

Above you mention "seeing things like this keep the breeding bug away"! Well, I have no way of telling if the leg and foot problems were present since birth or whether they developed from lack of vitamins and/or calcium. If it was me, I would like to find out. Only natural. If he refuses to share the info, that would not be a breeder for me .