In need of serious help.

[Knash14]

I need some serious help getting my gecko to eat. He hasnt had a solid poop in 2 weeks. I know he is not impacted because i broke down and fed him some waxworms which he ate right up and had a nice healthy poop. Here is a list of the food ive tried to feed him and he shows no interests in.
Mealworms
Super Worms
Hornworms
Dubai Roaches
And even a pinky just to see if he would eat something, he made friends with it and laid down next to it and took a nap.
It's the struggle to get him to eat, i finally break downa and throw him some waxworms after a week and a half of him holding out. After he eats his wax worms he has a nice healthy poop. When he doesnt eat he seems fine, active and likes to be help. When he doest eat his poop is just the white part and no actual poop. Any help is greatly appreciated.


General Information
Species of lizard: Leopard gecko
Gecko's name: Kaiju
Morph: Tremper Albino
Gender: Male
Age: Est. 1 year
Weight: Unknown
Total length: 8 inches
Length of your reptile when you first acquired it: 8 Inches
Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner): A-List Reptile Breeder
Captive bred or wild caught: CB

Vivarium
Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth): 20 gallon long aquarium
Cage (type, size):
Substrate provided: Cold side tile, middle is reptile carpet, and the warm side is paper towel
Types of hiding places provided: Rock hide on cold side, moist hide in the middle, hot hide over the UTH, log hide on top of the hot hide, and a paper towel roll on the warm side
Is there a humidity hide? yes location? Yes, in the middle
Please describe any other furnishings: Water bowl, food bowl
List recent changes in the environment None

Lighting
Artificial lighting Yes
Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs):yes wattage(s): 25 watt day bulb, 50 watt night bulb
Fluorescent (tube bulbs):no
Access to ambient daylight from a distant window: yes, not direct contact but does light up the back of the glass.

Heating
Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? Yes
What type and brand of thermometer: Stripe them. and heat gun when needed
What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide: 90
What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground: 80 degrees
What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground:75 degrees
What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other): Undertank heater and day bulb
Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners): Sticky feet on corners
Are you using a thermostat(s)? yes
Which hide does she/he spend most of her time? warm hide and paper towel roll
Is the temperature decreased at night? Yes, but 5 degrees on all sides

Humidity
Is the humidity measured? No
Humidity range: I dont know, most hide and leafs above the moist hide are sprayed with water at night

Diet
Insects and worms, list type: See below
Regular diet fed to the insects and worms: Tried everything
Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with? All get flukers orange cubes and calcium thirt quincher
How often do you feed your gecko? Normally every other day
Please list any supplements (with brand names) used.Zoomed repti calcium with d3
What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both? Yes, small calcium dish on cool side
Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without? with d3
Multivitamins (include brand name)? Repcal herptivite
Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

General Health
If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs:
Seems very healthy, active and not sickly looking
Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? average
Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? decreased
Have you noticed any of the following?
Weight (loss or gain): None
Discharge from the eyes or nose: None
Increased breathing rate or effort: None
Change in the droppings: Yes
Urates
---white or yellowish: white
---size of urates as compared to size of feces: All urates
Abnormal skin color or shedding: Healthy shed
Parasites on the skin or in the feces: None
Weakness: None

Previous problems and/or illnesses:

 

[Completeleopard]

Suggestions:

Remove the calcium with d3 from the tank immediately, Leo's do not know when they've consumed to much d3 and this can cause complications, use only phosphorus free calcium without d3 in the tank.
It may not be hot enough for your Leo some like it warmer than others, put the temp up to 92 Fahrenheit under the warm hide, leos need heat to digest and your Leo made need it warmer, if it isn't warm enough for your Leo to digest they won't eat as they know they can't digest the food.
How many wax worms have you fed your gecko and how often? Wax worms should only be used as treats once in a while and if fed often your gecko might not take other food.
Does your gecko focus on the food or just ignore it?

He hasnt had a solid poop in 2 weeks. I know he is not impacted because i broke down and fed him some waxworms which he ate right up and had a nice healthy poop.

In one instant you said he didn't have a solid poop in two weeks but you said you fed him wax worms and he had a healthy poo, when you fed him wax worms was his poop runny, or normal?

 

[Knash14]

When he went two weeks without eating I fed him waxworms and he ate 9 or so and had a healthy poop, firm and regular looking. So I'll give it a few days and present him some mealworms, crickets, or superstorms and he just ignores them. He'll look at them and just go right back to what he was doing.

 

[Completeleopard]

OK, it could be that he's decided he only wants wax worms, make the amendments suggested and see if that helps. Is his tail thin?

 

[Knash14]

No, nice fat tail and healthy looking body. If I wanted to completely get him off wax worms what's a safe period of time he could go without eating. He's already held out 2 weeks for waxies so if he doesn't eat for a month is that okay?

 

[cricket4u]

No, nice fat tail and healthy looking body. If I wanted to completely get him off wax worms what's a safe period of time he could go without eating. He's already held out 2 weeks for waxies so if he doesn't eat for a month is that okay?

How many leopard geckos do you have?

Can you post a picture of his enclosure entirely?

 

[Completeleopard]

Not entirely sure but I wouldn't recommend not giving him food for a month. Try the suggestions and he may start eating other feeders again, if he doesn't post again on this thread, by then others will have hopefully offered advice as well. Good luck.

 

[Knash14]

How many leopard geckos do you have?

Can you post a picture of his enclosure entirely?

I currently have 3 leo's.
1 juvenile unsexed mack snow, eats like a champ. Puts down 2-5 crickets daily.
1 male, year old enigma that eats good, doesnt do crickets but eats meal worms and superworms just fine.
And then the one with the trouble eating is the other male. i can post a full picture when i return home later this evening.

 

[cricket4u]

I currently have 3 leo's.
1 juvenile unsexed mack snow, eats like a champ. Puts down 2-5 crickets daily.
1 male, year old enigma that eats good, doesnt do crickets but eats meal worms and superworms just fine.
And then the one with the trouble eating is the other male. i can post a full picture when i return home later this evening.

You left this part out which is important, that's why I asked.

Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months):
Are any of your other pets ill?


It will be best to answer this as well. Pictures are very important, so please do post a picture of his enclosure later on.

 

[Knash14]

Sorry, all of my Leo's are in separate cages. On an L shaped desk in my room but all 3 are in seperate but similar setups. I live in an off campus house at at college and we also have 2 boa's and a bearded dragon but they are downstairs. None of our reptiles are sick and all are eating regularly without problem expect my make leo, Kaiju. Below is a pictur taken a week ago the only thing different is a meal worm dish that is in the cage now that wasn't in this picture.

 

[cricket4u]

Sorry, all of my Leo's are in separate cages. On an L shaped desk in my room but all 3 are in seperate but similar setups. I live in an off campus house at at college and we also have 2 boa's and a bearded dragon but they are downstairs. None of our reptiles are sick and all are eating regularly without problem expect my make leo, Kaiju. Below is a pictur taken a week ago the only thing different is a meal worm dish that is in the cage now that wasn't in this picture.

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Definitely remove the calcium.

Do you have ventilation space underneath for the UTH?

What is a stripe thermometer?

What type of thermometer exactly are you using to read the air temperatures?

The heat lamp is on the wrong side(cool side). There must be a discrepancy in the temperatures you mentioned.

Can you show me exactly where the thermostat probe is placed?

It looks too tight, not enough room. Consider increasing the enclosure size-longer.

I suggest a more secure hide for the cool side.

Purchase a humidity gauge, not the cheap pet store ones. I buy mine from here. Digital Hygrometers - Weather Instruments, Weather Radios & Cupolas

I know it's a lot at once, but as you can see there are several errors that need correction and any can be the reason for his poor eating habit.

Please take a look at the caresheet for further recommendations. Multivitamin change. Offer crickets.


#66---Leo Not Eating? Troubleshoot these causes......cricket4u (July & Nov 2013)
"Leos are very greedy and normally eat right away if everything is set up properly. However, I know there are exceptions. Try switching the hides. (The Exo-Terra hide is more secure and may be the reason. If he's not utilizing the heat, chances are he may not eat.) If that does not work, lower the temp as Elizabeth suggested. You may want to cover the sides of the glass so that he will feel more secure.

Improper temps---air temps too hot or too cold
Improper humidity---too dry is most common
Stress---too much handling---lack of hides or not enough---cagemate bullying, cage too small, et cetera......
Repetitious Diet---variety is important
Spoiled food---upset stomach or simply a bad experience (common with superworms)
Food offered at the wrong time of day---lights on
Wrong size prey---too big or too small
Improper photoperiod
Prey not recognized---leo needs moving prey to elicit feeding response
Malfunctioning heating equipment---goes unnoticed---should be checked daily
UTH is too warm---unregulated---gecko avoids the warm spot, therefore will not eat (need thermostat)
Most common of all CHEAP thermometers => false temp readings
Too much calcium causing constipation and/or loss of appetite

Parasites
Infection
Metabolic---calcium or vitamin deficiency
Impaction
Dehydration
Pain from an injury or otherwise"

http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...-macularius-demo-video-4-jan-2013-update.html

 

[cricket4u]

One last thing:

1 juvenile unsexed mack snow, eats like a champ. Puts down 2-5 crickets daily.
1 male, year old enigma that eats good, doesnt do crickets but eats meal worms and superworms just fine.

Corrections are necessary in the other two enclosures as well. 5 crickets daily is not much for a juvenile.

Although the other is an enigma, I don't see why he would refuse crickets aside from having difficulties catching them. Since the obvious is not always the reason, there's a chance that the use of beta carotene vs. Vitamin A acetate is at fault.