Phoenix worms?

Cymmie

New member
Silkworms have 43% fat when crickets have 44% fat so they are actually healthier. Just still don't feed too many as it will result in watery urates and possibly diaherria from your lizard. Because of their high water content. They are also pretty high in calcium too ^^
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Silkworms have 43% fat when crickets have 44% fat so they are actually healthier. Just still don't feed too many as it will result in watery urates and possibly diaherria from your lizard. Because of their high water content. They are also pretty high in calcium too ^^

No insect/worm comparison chart I have ever seen, accurate or not, has ever listed crickets as containing 44% fat! In fact, crickets are the healthiest feeder around as long as they are nutritiously fed! Feeding variety is best.

Click: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...-feeding-issues/68574-cricket-guidelines.html
 
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Cymmie

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Yes I agree feeding variety is best, but I do not agree that crickets are the healthiest feeder around, just in my opinion. Not because of what I said earlier, but because I believe dubias are better. They have a better meat to shell ratio, are higher in protein, and don't chew on your animal. But that's just my opinion. I was may have been wrong with the fat content, it's just what I have read before.
 

Elizabeth Freer

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Yes I agree feeding variety is best, but I do not agree that crickets are the healthiest feeder around, just in my opinion. Not because of what I said earlier, but because I believe dubias are better. They have a better meat to shell ratio, are higher in protein, and don't chew on your animal. But that's just my opinion. I was may have been wrong with the fat content, it's just what I have read before.

Ya gotta be careful with dubia. IMO dubia are not a "thumbs up" feeder as a staple. Some charts suggest that dubia are higher in protein than crickets. Too much protein can lead to serious problems.
 
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Hilde

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Too much protein can lead to serious problems.


I know too much animal protein can lead to gout

Depends on species. Obligate carnivores might disagree with those statements.

Omnivores and herbivores could suffer from too much, or even any, animal protein, but carnivores require animal protein. The same applies to leopards. In this case the protein is from an insect, but it's still animal protein.

You can't go by human diet guidelines for gout when it comes to leopard geckos (or any other species) because we're not true carnivores. Leopards don't get plants in their diet, other than what's still in the insect's digestive tract, which really isn't much.


Check out the entry on gout here:
Nutrition in Reptiles: Nutrition: Exotic and Zoo Animals: Merck Veterinary Manual

"Feeding diets low in protein to carnivorous reptiles is unwise because they are adapted to feeding on high-protein prey."
 
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