Under Tank Heater

LoveThatLeo

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Ok, so I have another question. I've heard a couple of things saying that an under tank heater is best, but some things say that you need a heating lamp. WHich is better, and why? I just need to know!
 
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Drago

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An under tank heater is by far better than any heat lamp. Leopard geckos are nocturnal (or crepuscular depending upon your view) and thus do not bask like diurnal lizards like say, a bearded dragon. Heat lamps work best to create a "basking spot" which simulates how a reptile would bask in the sun when in the wild. However, since Leos are not diurnal, they do not "bask" they spend the day hiding under rocks and logs and absorb heat from the ground there, as well as lying on rocks which retain heat after the sun sets. This is one reason why they're better. Secondly, leopard geckos need 88-92 ish degrees Fahrenheit to properly metabolize and digest food. A heat lamp will heat the ground beneath it, but not to the necessary temps like a heat mat would. The only sources that say you need a heat lamp are generally inexperienced Leo keepers, pet shops (which don't have proper advice anyway), and highly experienced breeders and keepers (which have the experience and expertise to use lamps carefully). Heat mats are also cheaper. They're an upfront cost of about $30-$40 and will last years if properly maintained. Heat lamps on the other hand can pose fire hazards and need to be replaced every few months, and a good, powerful bulb will cost you about $12-$20. Besides this, Leos have sensitive eyes and don't like light very much (even infrared bulbs won't help that much). It's just easier and simpler to get a heat mat from the start and save the time, trouble, and money.
 

Elizabeth Freer

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What size is your enclosure?

It's good to have the heat mat as wide as the tank and half the length. That's especially important for enclosures larger than 10 gallons.
 
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LoveThatLeo

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My tank is a 10 gallon tank. Should I get one half the length, or some other size?
- Elizabeth Freer
 
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LoveThatLeo

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Is that really true? I've heard other people who don't seem to fit into that category who say that you need a heat lamp. I do agree with that, though, about how it needs an under tank heater. - Drago
 
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LoveThatLeo

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Is that really true? I've heard other people who don't seem to fit into that category who say that you need a heat lamp. I do agree with that, though, about how it needs an under tank heater.
 

Drago

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Is that really true? I've heard other people who don't seem to fit into that category who say that you need a heat lamp. I do agree with that, though, about how it needs an under tank heater. - Drago

I would say so, as inexperienced owners haven't had Leos very long and often don't do their proper research, thus resulting in choosing lamps over heat mats. Pet stores also choose lamps because they often have very old and outdated information, or information based more on speculation/common knowledge rather than specific scientific evidence that is up to date and accurate. To work in a pet store, it takes only an interest in animals and 12 hours ish of training. This means someone like me could say they like animals and get hired to care for the stores pythons, which I'd know virtually nothing about. Experienced breeders and keepers also choose to use these for their own reasons. Just as some highly experienced keepers and breeders tend to use sand as well, which fair enough can be done, but with constant supervision and work, and it generally impacts the reptile negatively. now like you've said, there's definitely others who don't fit into any of these groups, but remember, there's exceptions to every rule
 

Elizabeth Freer

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My tank is a 10 gallon tank. Should I get one half the length, or some other size?
- Elizabeth Freer

Use Zoo Med's 8 x 12 inch UTH (or maybe the 6 x 8 inch) UTH for your 10 gallon tank. One of the 2 dry hides and the moist hide should sit on top of the UTH.

I recommend adding Hydrofarm's Jump Start MTPRTC thermostat for either.

When you upgrade your leo's enclosure to maybe a 30 x 12 x 12, be sure to get an 11 x 17 inch Ultratherm or Fluker's UTH.
 
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LoveThatLeo

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I would say so, as inexperienced owners haven't had Leos very long and often don't do their proper research, thus resulting in choosing lamps over heat mats. Pet stores also choose lamps because they often have very old and outdated information, or information based more on speculation/common knowledge rather than specific scientific evidence that is up to date and accurate. To work in a pet store, it takes only an interest in animals and 12 hours ish of training. This means someone like me could say they like animals and get hired to care for the stores pythons, which I'd know virtually nothing about. Experienced breeders and keepers also choose to use these for their own reasons. Just as some highly experienced keepers and breeders tend to use sand as well, which fair enough can be done, but with constant supervision and work, and it generally impacts the reptile negatively. now like you've said, there's definitely others who don't fit into any of these groups, but remember, there's exceptions to every rule

Great! I'll get an under tank heater soon. (Love your picture of the Crested Gecko!)
 
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LoveThatLeo

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Use Zoo Med's 8 x 12 inch UTH (or maybe the 6 x 8 inch) UTH for your 10 gallon tank. One of the 2 dry hides and the moist hide should sit on top of the UTH.

I recommend adding Hydrofarm's Jump Start MTPRTC thermostat for either.

When you upgrade your leo's enclosure to maybe a 30 x 12 x 12, be sure to get an 11 x 17 inch Ultratherm or Fluker's UTH.

Alright! That's the size and brand of under tank heater that I will get now.
 

TrishLeighB

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I don't know if I'm allowed to jump into this thread, I've started my own thread with questions involving a new baby leopard gecko and UTH/Lighting issues, but haven't had many replies.
I am using a UTH inside the viv sandwiched between two ceramic tiles and off the substrate, and also using a ceramic heat emitter. The tile parts that are exposed outside of the hot dry hide that's on top of the UTH are obviously getting hotter than inside the hide with direct heat from above. Is there something I should use or do to keep the top of the ceramic tile lower temp. It's not much that is exposed prop 1 inch around the hide that's exposed to emitter direct heat. Otherwise the emitter and UTH pairing keeps the viv at a great temp of 85 air and 90 on UTH. Unless I am completely wrong on correct temp. Haha :shock:

Hopefully I'm not illegally jumping into another thread with my own questions. ;-) Or if someone wants to answer my questions in my thread posted previously. I have pictures of my set up and such.
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...-uth-issues-lighting-heat-situation-help.html

THANK YOU!
 

new_rory

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I don't know if I'm allowed to jump into this thread, I've started my own thread with questions involving a new baby leopard gecko and UTH/Lighting issues, but haven't had many replies.
I am using a UTH inside the viv sandwiched between two ceramic tiles and off the substrate, and also using a ceramic heat emitter. The tile parts that are exposed outside of the hot dry hide that's on top of the UTH are obviously getting hotter than inside the hide with direct heat from above. Is there something I should use or do to keep the top of the ceramic tile lower temp. It's not much that is exposed prop 1 inch around the hide that's exposed to emitter direct heat. Otherwise the emitter and UTH pairing keeps the viv at a great temp of 85 air and 90 on UTH. Unless I am completely wrong on correct temp. Haha :shock:

Hopefully I'm not illegally jumping into another thread with my own questions. ;-) Or if someone wants to answer my questions in my thread posted previously. I have pictures of my set up and such.
http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...-uth-issues-lighting-heat-situation-help.html

THANK YOU!

You don't need the heat emitter. Leos don't really benefit from overhead heat, just belly heat. I'd start with removing the heat emitter and see if things work better.
 

TrishLeighB

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You don't need the heat emitter. Leos don't really benefit from overhead heat, just belly heat. I'd start with removing the heat emitter and see if things work better.

Well yes, I am aware of that but unfortunately with my set up and the size of the heating pad it definitely does not heat up the rest of the viv enough.
 
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