Help with lizard!!!

[Number1Sticky]

I did order the oxbow from amazon and it should be here in two days. But I'm worried it will be too late. When I went to feed her today I thought she was dead.

Do you think I could use pedialyte? I remember years ago I had a turtle on the verge of death and it literally saved her life. All I did was soak her in it for I think it was 20 minutes every 4 hours for a day. And she bounced back. It was shocking how much it helped her.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I did mention to her when she was telling me about all the d3 that I thought that was too much and she basically said it was fine. But I will mention to her tomorrow what is happening with mine because of it.

Please print out Samurai Drifter's reply for your pet store lady. Sometimes it helps to have a visual to ponder.

Whomever one is there is always more to learn about our geckos.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I did order the oxbow from amazon and it should be here in two days. But I'm worried it will be too late. When I went to feed her today I thought she was dead.

Do you think I could use pedialyte? I remember years ago I had a turtle on the verge of death and it literally saved her life. All I did was soak her in it for I think it was 20 minutes every 4 hours for a day. And she bounced back. It was shocking how much it helped her.

Nevada needs quick action like feeding tonight. I'm worried that she may also be dehydrated.

Try some clear pedialyte mixed with Gerber's Turkey Baby Food. That's much better than Gerber's Chicken Baby Food.

Gently hold her and place some on her snout. Hopefully she'll lick it off.

• Make certain the temps under her warm dry hide are 88-92*F all the time.
• Will she still drink on her own? Place a shallow water dish close to her sleeping place.
• See whether she'll take water right in her mouth from an eye dropper.
• If she won't open her mouth, gently brush your finger along her lips.

 

[Number1Sticky]

So quick update. I got her some hornworms, pedialyte and gerber's turkey baby food. She ate a hornworm. Had some of the pedialyte mixed with with baby food. It was really hard to get her to eat any of that. She does not like it.

But she seems more active today and back so her sassy self. Although still hard for her to move around. She's not exactly walking. More like dragging herself around on her belly.

She still had crickets in her tank so I didn't give her more today. She's also shedding right now and she normally doesn't eat as much when she sheds.

 

[Number1Sticky]

I also got my new calcium and multivitamin in the mail today.

 

[Number1Sticky]

I also got the oxbow stuff. I had to water it down a lot and basically force feed her. :/ But she did get some.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I also got the oxbow stuff. I had to water it down a lot and basically force feed her. :/ But she did get some.

:yahoo:

 

[Number1Sticky]

Can I mix the oxbow stuff with the pedialyte?

She did seem better this morning. She's starting to fight me more when I pick her up to feed her. Which means she's feeling better.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Can I mix the oxbow stuff with the pedialyte?

She did seem better this morning. She's starting to fight me more when I pick her up to feed her. Which means she's feeling better.

Please phone the Oxbow folks to make sure. Then let us know.

Updated info:

APPROX. NUTRITIONAL CONTENT OF HORNWORMS from Mulberry Farms:
Calcium 46.4 mg/100g
Calciumhosphorus Ratio 1:3
Protein 9%
Fat 3%
Moisture 85%

 

[Number1Sticky]

Can someone please help me with the dosage?

It says they need 2 tbsp per kg of weight. Her ideal weight is 50 - 70 grams. Right now she weighs 31 grams. She has always been on the smaller size.

So how much should I be giving her?

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Can someone please help me with the dosage?

It says they need 2 tbsp per kg of weight. Her ideal weight is 50 - 70 grams. Right now she weighs 31 grams. She has always been on the smaller size.

So how much should I be giving her?

Is she lapping it up willing or are you having to syringe-feed?

If she is lapping it up willing, I'd mix the Carnivore Care to a "palatable" consistency and feed her all she'll eat in about 15 minutes. Feed her 1x per day.

 

[Number1Sticky]

Is she lapping it up willing or are you having to syringe-feed?

If she is lapping it up willing, I'd mix the Carnivore Care to a "palatable" consistency and feed her all she'll eat in about 15 minutes. Feed her 1x per day.

I have to use a eye dropper.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Please phone the Oxbow folks to make sure. Then let us know.

Updated info:

APPROX. NUTRITIONAL CONTENT OF HORNWORMS from Mulberry Farms:
Calcium 46.4 mg/100g
Calciumhosphorus Ratio 1:3
Protein 9%
Fat 3%
Moisture 85%

Can someone please help me with the dosage?

It says they need 2 tbsp per kg of weight. Her ideal weight is 50 - 70 grams. Right now she weighs 31 grams. She has always been on the smaller size.

So how much should I be giving her?

I have to use a eye dropper.

I want you to receive very accurate info for Nevada.

Your best bet is to phone Oxbow (800-249-0366). There you can probably talk with the person who formulated Carnivore Care. Mention the hornworms and the pedialyte as well.

Here's Oxbow's website: Oxbow Animal Health | Contact

Will she eat 2-3 small hornworms per week?


PS: I just found this info. The Oxbow vet told me a couple years back to do this to extend the life of Carnivore Care.

[re Carnivore Care & "7 day" shelf life; no preser, "daily ss" packets; open,rem,seal - air, then freeze up to 3 mos]

Oxbow's vet says Carnivore Care only has a 7 day shelf life because it has no preservatives. He says you can open it and make daily portions this way.

• Open product.
• Remove a daily portion. (Maybe you could do a "couple day" portion?)
• Repackage in a snack size ziplock.
• Remove any air as you seal the ziplock.
• Freeze up to 3 months.

 

[Number1Sticky]

I want you to receive very accurate info for Nevada.

Your best bet is to phone Oxbow (800-249-0366). There you can probably talk with the person who formulated Carnivore Care. Mention the hornworms and the pedialyte as well.

Here's Oxbow's website: Oxbow Animal Health | Contact

Will she eat 2-3 small hornworms per week?


PS: I just found this info. The Oxbow vet told me a couple years back to do this to extend the life of Carnivore Care.

[re Carnivore Care & "7 day" shelf life; no preser, "daily ss" packets; open,rem,seal - air, then freeze up to 3 mos]

He said Carnivore Care only has a 7 day shelf life because it has no preservatives. He says you can open it and make daily portions this way.

• Open product.
• Remove a daily portion. (Maybe you could do a "couple day" portion?)
• Repackage in a snack size ziplock.
• Remove any air as you seal the ziplock.
• Freeze up to 3 months.
  

Thanks for that info. I figured I had to throw it out after 7 days.

I did call them and ask about the dosage and the pedialyte . She was no help at all. All she told me was I'd have to call the vet. But I've called them I the past and all they say is they can't give me any info without seeing the pet first.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

Thanks for that info. I figured I had to throw it out after 7 days.

I did call them and ask about the dosage and the pedialyte . She was no help at all. All she told me was I'd have to call the vet. But I've called them I the past and all they say is they can't give me any info without seeing the pet first.

You're welcome. Sorry about that. I spoke with the vet himself.

About the amount of Carnivore Care in the eyedropper: Gradually increase the amount you're feeding Nevada daily or weekly.

Will she still eat very small hornworms? If so, try dusting one with a plain calcium carbonate like Zoo Med's plain Repti Calcium or the NOW brand calcium carbonate that you can find in health foods stores.

A few days ago I discovered that a ca : ph level for hornworms had been determined. Phosphorus impairs calcium absorption. By lightly dusting a hornworm with plain calcium carbonate, you will rebalance the calcium and phosphorus.

 

[Number1Sticky]

You're welcome. Sorry about that. I spoke with the vet himself.

About the amount of Carnivore Care in the eyedropper: Gradually increase the amount you're feeding Nevada daily or weekly.

Will she still eat very small hornworms? If so, try dusting one with a plain calcium carbonate like Zoo Med's plain Repti Calcium or the NOW brand calcium carbonate that you can find in health foods stores.

A few days ago I discovered that a ca : ph level for hornworms had been determined. Phosphorus impairs calcium absorption. By lightly dusting a hornworm with plain calcium carbonate, you will rebalance the calcium and phosphorus.

I have been still trying the hornworm. No luck. I even tried killing a small cricket and putting it in her mouth yesterday and she spit it out. :/

She has been shedding which had been bothering her. I had to peal some skin off her eyes yesterday. I know you're not supposed to. But they had been there a few days and her one eye was sealed shut because of it.

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

What do you think about occasionally soaking her in pedialyte?

 

[Number1Sticky]

What do you think about occasionally soaking her in pedialyte?

I would be fine with that. How often and how long?

At this point she is refusing to even open her mouth forme to syringe feed her. I put her back in the cage and she doesn't even move.

Ugh. It looked like she was getting better and then today it seems like she's totally given up. :'(

 

[Elizabeth Freer]

I would be fine with that. How often and how long?

At this point she is refusing to even open her mouth forme to syringe feed her. I put her back in the cage and she doesn't even move.

Ugh. It looked like she was getting better and then today it seems like she's totally given up. :'(

Once a day for the pedialyte soak. Lukewarm pedialytye, no warmer than 86*F (a leo's preferred body temp). 15 minutes? If possible give water orally to her too.

Have you tried brushing your index finger across her lips to get her to open up? Is she keeping the Carnivore Care down?

 

[Number1Sticky]

Thank you for all your help. But unfortunately I came home from work today to find that Nevada had passed away. ������