Mixing Species

[BlakeDeffenbaugh]

For one he's been doing this longer than you so he has more experience. Yeah she able to be held because she's to damn stressed my angulifer are not tame and that's how they should be. I knew I should of got her when I seen her because I had a feeling she would somehow out of a horror story get to you.

As for these people mixing species. Yes it can be done by experienced keepers and of the same needs. NONE of your animals are of the same habitat. Yes they may be desert but none from the same location. . . . All your doing is making them suffer because your to cheap to set up more tanks and buy more than one dozen crickets a week for your 20 geckos or whatever.

 

[mat.si]

Namibian giant ground gecko female I bought from lllreptile for $99 is super chill.I was offering $350 to $500 to glades herps,Matsui and passport herps.

I had no idea this thread was about why I didn't take $350 to $500 for angulifer female I don't even have.
I'm not even replying to this, I'm just watching.

Eli, If I was you, I would be very careful what I would say next. Use some of that Careful Thinking.

Matjaz

 

[Sgvreptiles]

The tereatoscincus looks like crap. Ide seperate it untill its fatter. And I think all the geckos being housed together are ok. They all pretty much have the same environment EXCEPT the fat tail gecko. They like it a little cooler and damper then the other geckos. So ide say seperate that one out and the teratoscincus (untill its fatter) and they should be ok. Im cool with mixing species, just when there requirements are the same and theres no breeding.

 

[PassPort]

They all pretty much have the same environment EXCEPT the fat tail gecko

actually the picta should really be on more of a sand/soil mix, but you're right about the AFT. basically if you look at the color/pattern/shape of the geckos it will tell you how they should be set up - at least environment wise.

my teratoscincus eats super-worms whole,just like people when they eat a lot and stay skinny.

that's called having parasites. that's why your gecko is skinny. 95% of all Teratoscincus in the pet trade are WC imports, LOADED WITH PARASITES. why would you endanger your other pets with that. on top of it all, as we've all told you before, those parasites are from a totally different part of the world so your other geckos will not have the same immunities to them as your Terato does.

p.s. your viv looks more like a gecko version of michael jackson's never never land ranch --- and we all know how much "fun" that place was for the kids. ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT THIS MONSTROSITY FROM YOUR GECKO'S POINT OF VIEW FOR ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BlakeDeffenbaugh]

Thus I also try to mix species by providing individual niches for the respective animals.

After all, the respective species still have to be selected very carefully and the tank not only has to be big but also has to provide all the essentials for all species involved.
Nothing to be recommended to a beginner, but a challenge for experienced herpers.

With your examples, I do feel a bit unconfortable with the cage sizes you use for such experiments.....I strongly recommend to not try to safe space by mixing species

He said this to someone that knew what they were doing. . . and I'm sure he would have MUCH more to say about yours.

I'm not against mixed species vivariums when they are done right. Not random ass geckos/lizards thrown in just because you dont want more cages. I'd love to have something like Ingo's 1200 gal but where I'm at right now I just dont have the room or money for something like that.

His tanks are also like 200gal+ yours is a 29 or whatever with 20 geckos. . not even close to being ok. These are not "your kind of people" because they are experienced and know what they are doing.

What you are doing is making animals suffer because you THINK they are ok. All those animals look horrible. The Teratoscincus looks malnourished and the Chondro looks stressed as hell.

You REALLY need to take a better look at the care of your animals. Reading about you being the "ambassador of mixed species" is just getting old now. Rethink the care of the animals and think "gee if I was a animal would I want to be crammed in this small ass space with 19 different animals". . . Do them a favor, feed them more and get more cages. Stop being so damn cheap. If your worried about money then pick a different hobby, sell the animals to someone that will really take care of them.

 

[PassPort]

Gekkonids of shared genuses share similar to the same imunities

none of those geckos are even closely related to each other besides the leo and the AFT. besides that, your statement is completely false. closely related species of geckos share similar immune systems, but actual immunities vary greatly depending on location and environment. I don't know where you get your facts, but obviously the books you read have lots of pictures and pop-ups, maybe even a maze or two.

Paroedura picta - subfamily Phyllodacylinae
Teratoscincus przewalskii - subfamily Sphaerodactylinae, formerly Teratoscininae
Chondrodactylus angulifer - subfamily Gekkoninae
Eublepharis macularius - subfamily Eublepharinae
Hemitheconyx caudicinctus - subfamily Eublepharinae

 

[Ingo]

Sorry, but 29g is fine for a pair of a medium sized gecko species -if well furnished.
Everything else is nothing but sad and I better stop here for not being....

Ingo

 

[clint545]

Mmm your thinking of a 20 gallon and that even can hold more than 5 paroedura Picta from Madagascar or more. you read the measurements hello. And that's without a Penn-plax driftwood gardens volcano.

Just wondering where you're getting this info? That a 20g would be anywhere large enough for 5+ picta(maybe a pair)?
And that there's no way for them to contract any disease in a cramped "communal" tank? With or without a Super Duper Deluxe Volcano?

 

[Ingo]

Yes and chicken are kept successfully for egg laying in a cage of a squarefoot.
Many animals can survive a lot.
But I personally want my animals to not just survive but thrive and live with more than the bare minimum of many aspects.
What do you want? Just collect?

Ingo

 

[PassPort]

Gekkonids of shared genuses share similar to the same imunities

negative, it's just not widely known

 

[BlakeDeffenbaugh]

You say "let me know about this" and yet when people tell you what they think its like talking to a deft kid it just don't get threw. If you don't want to hear what we say then just shut up, don't ask what we think, and don't post here

Not one person has agreed with what you do. Jeff said they will get along but you shouldn't keep the AFT or the frogeye in there.

I think you just like the attention everyone gives you when you post this stupid made up bull. I would love for you to post all your sources of information.

 

[BlakeDeffenbaugh]

First of all whats "neg". You really need to learn how to type.

Second for the last time it would be C. angulifer or G. gekko or O. mormorata and so on. . not Chondro A.

How am I sore about anything? I had the chance to buy her off a table the first of this month. I passed because I already have a pair.

You want to stick to the Oedura? DONT DO IT! People tell you this about every gecko you put in your tank but why even ask you dont listen. Dont sit there and act all holly because this is a "mixed species" thread because the ones that commented on the GOOD mixes are not even backing you up. In fact they are all saying you need to not do it as well.

About reptilesncritters or whatever. . dont think many really care. People post G. marginata as G. vorax time and time again and its not going to change.

 

[clint545]

Sorry that's a 10 GaL 2 leos and a Pictus 20 gallon is bigger they don't have sliding cages for those by R-Zilla.But they have a Bearded dragon kit at Petco that's 20 gallon for a single bearded dragon sized petco says.The brand R-Zilla has 10G,29G and a 40G the biggest and clamp lamp use 75 watt,100 watt and 150 watt for the biggest.K Late

??? If you're trying to make a point here, or explain something it's like most of your posts and lost in translation.

What does it have to do with answering anything?

 

[Crandall Geckos]

Alright this is getting pretty ridiculous.... Let's try a new tactic on this kid. How about everyone that doesn't like his idea of mixing species ignore him. It looks to me like kobegasol29 can't handle the idea of keeping geckos in different cages.

 

[clint545]

And once again I find myself posting this....

It is like sticking pencils in my ears, everytime.

It just hurts!

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

You guys really need to just ignore Eli. And Eli, you really need to stop instigating the situation. I'm not going to tolerate this much longer (from either side). Threads like this bring the whole forum down.