Help Sexing L. williamsii please

firereptiles

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Hi guys,
I just got 1.2 L. williamsii. They're amazing geckos!
I'm just not sure if I really get 1 male and 2 females.

First up, this is the first "Female": looks like a young male to me?!
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This is the Second "Female". This one is slightly smaller than the first female and she is more skittish.
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and this is the definite Male.
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Please help me with the sexing, I haven't got any experience with this species.
I'm hoping to contact the seller first and exchange for some females if I turns out to have extra males.
Is there any behavioral difference with male and females? The first female and the Male is much more calm than the "second female"...

Thanks!
 
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firereptiles

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If I'm not mistaken, what I've read from another thread...
So If there are 2 males present in the same cage, Only the "Alpha" male will show its Blue Coloration?

My "First Female" looks like she has a pretty big bulge, but she doesn't have the (black dots) pores like the Blue Male....
I'm so uncertain of their sexing...

Anyone? Please advice..
 

Lygodactylus

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Although I've had a lot of problems with sexing them myself, and bought as well females which turned out to be males, I'm pretty sure the first one is male. The second one might be female, but I would separate them for a while, and see wat happens, it might turn blue as well if your unlucky. But this are just my two cents, someone else might think different on this..
 

geckoboy

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The first 'female' is male and the second may also be male but looks young still. Despite there being no pore or bulge development, the throat and ventral colouration in young males can give early clues as to the sex of the gecko. A darker, more prominent pattern on the throat is characteristic of males in many Lygodactylus species.
 

cooper01

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sexing!

I would say that that they are both males. I am at school and just asked the head of the department, which is a herpetologist and he agreed with the above statement that only one will be blue in the cage at a time (Alpha). The second does not have the dark blue pores, but does very much appear to have them. Hope this helps!!!
 
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firereptiles

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Thanks so much guys!
grrrrrrrrr... looks like maybe you are right, they're all males...
I'm going to separate them for now, and see if they turn Blue or not.
 

'stoph

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the first one looks to be male, looks very similar to my young male.
It's the hemipenis bulges that will give it away-also females have a brown/copperish coloration - males lack that color as you can see with my trio

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2nd one could be female.
 
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firereptiles

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'stoph, how long does it take for your less dominant male to turn Blue after isolation from other males?

I separate my "first female" by itself, and after 3 days she's still have the same female coloration..
 

'stoph

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It's a young animal so it still needs a couple of months to get to the point he actually can turn blue.
Full adult specimens can turn their colors rather fast it's just a matter of minutes.
 
how large are these geckos full grown? there really isn't much info on them and none of it says anything about their size or at least the stuff I can find
 

sphynxskin

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Sorry to butt in on your thread but i was sold a pair of these geckos, had them since March this year. Today i have put them in a bigger viv and the female keeps chasing the male all around & displaying. Could this mean she is a he?
 

'stoph

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My dominant female also puffs her throat and head nods toward my male but he returns gestures and will chase her away.
So it could be it's the other way around with your couple that the female chases the male away.
Can you post a pic?
 
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sphynxskin

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She is actually going out of her way to try & find him! He is not making any advances to her, he was though in the smaller viv. They would nod their heads and kiss one another. Will try & get some pics posted. The guy from whom i bought them from has said females are born green & stay that way, having subtle colour changes when provoked. I wonder why she /he never did it in the other smaller viv.
 

sphynxskin

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Back in July you confirmed that my Lygodactylus williamsi (which was sold to me as a female) was a male. The guy from whom I bought it from swapped it for another one. I have had it now for about six weeks and have just recently noticed it spending a lot of time on the front of the glass. The male i have keeps chasing it...I have taken a photo of it and would be very grateful if you can confirm what sex it is as I'm having my suspicions it's another male!!

Thank you!

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